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This line of thinking seems to fit very well with Bp. Williamson's predictions that chastisement is near. I think that this is the way that he imagines that we will get out of this mess, and it makes a lot of sense.

If chastisement takes too long, catholicism apparently will disappear. Traditionalism will turn into heresy and schism. I cannot see it happening any other way.

Hi, Giovanni. While some chastisement may likely come, since the weight of man's sins and offenses are very great, unless they are counter-balanced by proportionate prayers and sacrifices, imho, it is a mistake to WANT chastisement to come. Not saying you or H.E. wants that to happen, or are waiting for it; but I have seen such an attitude, among some Laity, of an "it's all over mentality". Either, chastisement, or end of the world, and there's nothing to do but wait for it. I think we should strive to inculcate a "Restoration mentality" in Tradition instead.

The former almost leads to despair. The latter gives hope. God has promised, and Our Lady has guaranteed, the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart, the Conversion of Russia etc will happen in the end, so our hope is solid, being based on the Immaculata's Promise.

Imo, we have to be ready, however long it takes. Perhaps, in 10 to 15 years, we will see some chastisement followed by Restoration. Perhaps, alternately, it may take as long as 30 to 50 years. But till the end, those devoted to the Church and to Tradition must go on. And God is Faithful and will give the necessary graces to all who co-operate with His Will. Restoration will come from Him in His Time.

He has already promised also, by the Mother of God at Quito etc, to send a holy Pope, at the end of the prophesied 20th century crisis.

The Holy Ghost gave him a healthy blessing of Wisdom and Prudence, that's for sure, maybe even some Prophecy. Talk about

graces of state! The Holy Ghost dished out graces/blessings to +Williamson from the same heavenly treasure chest that He dished out graces/blessings to one +Marcel Lefebvre years earlier. In fact, they may even be the self-same graces/blessings, that had been returned to the treasure chest after +Lefebvre was done with them after he entered his eternal reward!

Matthew, as is clear from the above, You venerate Bp. Williamson as a living saint full of the Holy Ghost's graces, or at least as a very holy Bishop completely faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre. And that's fine, the Resistance needs that. So why are you opposed to us likewise believing Bp. Fellay is a holy and perhaps even Saintly Successor to Archbishop Lefebvre? From our perspective, everything changes after Summorum Pontificuм in 2007, and Universae Ecclesiae in 2011, not to mention Doctrinal Discussions since then. Thereafter, it is reasonable and right to pursue canonical normalization and normal relations with Rome in due time, in our opinion.

Any way you look at it, any organized society, beginning from a natural family, requires authority and order in order to function. Imagine if sons were constantly trying to undermine their Father's paternal authority in the house. The household couldn't function like that, could it? Granted, Faith is greater than Obedience; but obedience is required in all things not contrary to the Faith, and normal relations with Rome, in the post SP era, manifestly is not contrary to the Faith; otherwise pure self-will can result, and that is nearly fatal in a religious Fraternity or order, all of whose members should be absolutely dead to self-will, living to do only the Will of God, which is normally made known through Superiors. We know the Fourth Commandment is the First Commandment with a Promise, as St. Paul says; Eph 6:"[1] Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is just. [2] Honour thy father and thy mother, which is the first commandment with a promise: [3] That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest be long lived upon earth.

The Catechism of Trent says the honor and reverence we give to our Superiors in the Church is a spiritual extension of this Commandment. Why do Monks take vows of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience, if obedience is not intrinsically necessary for an order's functioning? Only in the case when something is manifestly contrary to God's Commandments was, as the Sanhedrin's command not to preach Jesus Christ Our Lord, can we rightly say with the Apostles, Acts 5: [29] But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men."

I don't see the SSPX in any respect telling anyone to disobey the commandments of God; otherwise, I would not belong to it. As it is, the SSPX wants to obey, as far as is reasonably possible in these times, what Our Lord Himself said in Mat 18:17. The SSPX is preparing for a long, long fight ahead; perhaps, many decades still.

This is clear from the Letter of the General Council: "When one watches how events are unfolding it is highly likely that the end of this crisis will take tens of years yet. But to refuse to work in the vineyard because there are still many weeds that risk stifling and obstructing the vine runs up against a notable lesson from the Bible: it Our Lord himself who gives us to understand with His parable of the chaff that there will always be in one form or another weeds to be pulled up and fought against in His Church ... This dialectic between the Truth and the Faith on the one side and Authority on the other is contrary to the Spirit of the Priesthood ... We are praying hard for each of you that we may find ourselves all together once again in this fight which is far from over, for the greater glory of God and for love of dear Society."

Could someone here give a thumbnail definition of "Fiftiesism"?

It's one of those terms that I think I know what it means --- Dad goes out to work every day, Mom stays home with several kids, everything is very clean and well-organized, the whole family sits down at a decent hour to a nourishing, home-cooked dinner, television in the home is either non-existent or severely restricted, the family goes to the Traditional Latin Mass every Sunday (at the very least) in dress clothes, many families produce a vocation to the priesthood or religious life, and the priest's word is law, no further discussion necessary.  In other words, Leave It To Beaver or Father Knows Best dressed up in Catholic clothing.  Is that it?

I understand it to mean a superficial Catholic Faith, that one displays in the exterior, as a matter of habit or routine, but not out of conviction. All bishops at the Council were offering the Latin Mass in the 1950's and teaching the Traditional Faith, yet, almost all were mondernist on the inside and their modernism came out once they got the chance in the 1960's.

Delicacy - I see this as a kind of prudence that says the right thing at the right time. A good example of this type of prudence comes from the life of St Hugh of Lincoln;
 Hugh was consecrated Bishop of Lincoln on 21 September 1186^[4] at Westminster.^[1] Almost immediately he established his independence of the King, excommunicating a royal forester and refusing to seat one of Henry's courtly nominees as a prebendary of Lincoln; he softened the king's anger by his diplomatic address and tactful charm. After the excommunications, he came upon the king hunting and was greeted with dour silence. He waited several minutes and the king called for a needle to sew up a leather bandage on his finger. Eventually Hugh said, with gentle mockery, "How much you remind me of your cousins of Falaise" (where William I's mother Herleva, a tanner's daughter, had come from). At this Henry just burst out laughing and was reconciled. As a bishop, he was exemplary, constantly in residence or travelling within his diocese, generous with his charity, scrupulous in the appointments he made. He raised the quality of education at the cathedral school. Hugh was also prominent in trying to protect the Jews, great numbers of whom lived in Lincoln, in the persecution they suffered at the beginning of Richard I's reign, and he put down popular violence against them—as later occurred following the death of Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln—in several places.
https://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=5936
Disinterestedness - This could be related with the virtue of detachment. Think of the holy people of Acadia who chose exile and imprisonment rather than to deny their Catholic Faith. Or rather the Catholics of Mosul who chose exile rather than to accept the false religion of Islam.
Dependence - One way that this could be understood would be in total dependence on the will of God. What does God want? What does God want me to do? "Fiat mihi secundum voluntatem tua" - The Blessed Virgin Mary
 

poche sometimes you surprise me.