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Offline UbiCaritas

Re: SSPX Consecrandi Announced
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2026, 11:43:40 PM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on May 26, 2026, 08:24:14 AM
So for an ignorant newcomer such as myself, is there any worry about these priests? No dodgy order business like with Huonder?

Schreiber participated in the doubtful Holy Oil consecrations of Huonder and himself is a supporter of the validity of the new rites of episcopal consecration.  Don't expect a return to conditional ordination of priests any time soon.
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: SSPX Consecrandi Announced
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2026, 03:08:29 AM »
Quote from: UbiCaritas on May 26, 2026, 11:43:40 PM
Schreiber participated in the doubtful Holy Oil consecrations of Huonder and himself is a supporter of the validity of the new rites of episcopal consecration.  Don't expect a return to conditional ordination of priests any time soon.
If you can post something up on this forum with a link, and best start a new thread about it, that would be helpful to all of us. 
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Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: SSPX Consecrandi Announced
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2026, 02:32:54 PM »
Not one of these priests would have been episcopal material before the late pseudo-council of the 1960s.

None are canonists; none are theologians in the strict sense.

Admittedly, none of the consecrands of 1988 were either. Indeed, when I think of trad bishops who came close to the old profile for consecration, Bishop Guerard was a worthy candidate, of course. Bishop Sanborn comes close. So too Frs. Cekada, Feeney (Ha! Cekada is spinning in his grave for placing Feeney right after him!), and Ducaud-Bourget.
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Offline cath4ever

Re: SSPX Consecrandi Announced
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2026, 03:03:40 PM »
Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on May 27, 2026, 02:32:54 PM
Not one of these priests would have been episcopal material before the late pseudo-council of the 1960s.

None are canonists; none are theologians in the strict sense.

Admittedly, none of the consecrands of 1988 were either. Indeed, when I think of trad bishops who came close to the old profile for consecration, Bishop Guerard was a worthy candidate, of course. Bishop Sanborn comes close. So too Frs. Cekada, Feeney (Ha! Cekada is spinning in his grave for placing Feeney right after him!), and Ducaud-Bourget.
Isn't it a common criticism of Vatican II and pre-Vatican II bishops that they were mostly administrators and not theologians, canonists, and moralists? 
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Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: SSPX Consecrandi Announced
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2026, 06:14:53 PM »
Quote from: cath4ever on May 27, 2026, 03:03:40 PM
Isn't it a common criticism of Vatican II and pre-Vatican II bishops that they were mostly administrators and not theologians, canonists, and moralists?
No, generally canonists (JCL, JCD) followed by theologians (MTS, STL, STD) were selected (or in some placed elected) for the episcopacy.

Did they function as mere administrators? Yes, in the decades following Vatican I when a distorted understanding of papal primacy and infallibility -- an notion specifically repudiated by the council -- came to be popularly held.
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