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Offline Cera

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Re: Msgr. Vigano on Standing for the City of God
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2022, 10:43:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on November 18, 2022, 09:38:00 AM
    Same o' same o'...

    Over and over again, Vigano keeps telling TRAD CATS  that Russians are

    sooooooo Christian.
     
    In the OP didn't see +Vigano say that.
    I read Vigano quoting an anti-Christian democrat.

    And when we hear US Democrat Congressman Jamie Raskin declaring, “Russia is an Orthodox country with traditional values. That is why it must be destroyed, whatever the price paid by the United States” (here), we feel spiritually linked to that people, because of the common persecution we endure from the enemies of God.
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    Re: Msgr. Vigano on Standing for the City of God
    « Reply #16 on: November 18, 2022, 11:28:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on November 18, 2022, 10:43:29 AM
    In the OP didn't see +Vigano say that.
    I read Vigano quoting an anti-Christian democrat.

    And when we hear US Democrat Congressman Jamie Raskin declaring, “Russia is an Orthodox country with traditional values. That is why it must be destroyed, whatever the price paid by the United States” (here), we feel spiritually linked to that people, because of the common persecution we endure from the enemies of God.
    Vigano has promoted Russia as a "Christian" bulwark against the NWO several times.

    He has even described Russia as the Third Rome and the Katechon which will save us from the Antichrist:

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    The world crisis with which the dissolution of traditional society is being prepared has also involved the Catholic Church, whose hierarchy is held hostage by apostates who are courtiers of power… Perhaps Providence has ordained that Moscow, the Third Rome, will today in the sight of the world take on the role of κατέχον [Katechon] (2 Thess 2:6-7), of eschatological obstacle to the Antichrist.13
    https://www.tfp.org/archbishop-viganos-attempt-to-justify-putins-war-on-ukraine-runs-counter-the-fatima-message/


    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is what is called

    BLASPHEMY





    As for the OP:

    "We, and all of you who are gathered here for the National Day of     Liberi in Veritate, find ourselves belonging ideally to the Civitas Dei, but this citizenship does not find a concrete reality in which to act, in which to contribute to the bonum commune that as Catholics we would like to promote both in the Church and in public affairs. It is as if we had the passport of a nation whose location we do not know on the globe, but of which we find traces now in Hungary, now in Poland, now in Brazil, now even in Russia, and unexpectedly also among many other exiles like us, who know very well what we are referring to, but who like us feel in some way like foreigners. And when we hear US Democrat Congressman Jamie Raskin declaring, “Russia is an Orthodox country with traditional values. That is why it must be destroyed, whatever the price paid by the United States” (here), we feel spiritually linked to that people, because of the common persecution we endure from the enemies of God."


    One of these countries is NOT LIKE THE OTHERS:

    Hungary
    Poland
    Brazil
    Russia




    How do you define a Christian country?

    How do you define the bonum commune?

    Is Russia enduring persecution from the enemies of God?

    Is Russia an Orthodox country with traditional values?




    So if one percent of Russia attend Orthodox Liturgy,

    is that a "Christian country"?




    If the leader of Russia, Putin, sees Christianity as synonymous with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Communism

    is that a "Christian country"?


    If Catholics cannot freely worship in Russia, is that a "Christian Country"?



    Is Russia administrating China style surveillance and control?

    ‘They Are Watching’: Inside Russia’s Vast Surveillance State
    By Paul Mozur, Adam Satariano, Aaron Krolik and Aliza AufrichtigSept. 22, 2022

    A cache of nearly 160,000 files from Russia’s powerful internet regulator provides a rare glimpse inside Vladimir V. Putin’s digital crackdown.

    https://www.nytimes.com/inteactive/2022/09/22/technology/russia-putin-surveillance-spying.html


    Russia's System of Operational-Investigatory Measures (SORM) requires telecommunications operators to install hardware provided by the Federal Security Service (FSB) which allows the agency to monitor users' communications metadata and content, including phone calls, email traffic, and web browsing activity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_Russia#:~:text=Russia's%20System%20of%20Operational%2DInvestigatory,traffic%2C%20and%20web%20browsing%20activity.



    Authoritarians love smart cities. Russia is no exception


    Russia’s capital has around 200,000 surveillance cameras. That’s more cameras per square mile than in Beijing or New York. In October 2021, the Moscow Metro launched a facial recognition payment system. Branded as a quick, contactless way of paying ride fares, it was also used for surveillance. Since September 2020, almost 3,000 criminals have been caught in the Moscow Metro because of the system, according to city authorities. But the extreme crackdown on dissent triggered by the war in Ukraine makes Moscow’s technological advances terrifying for anyone who opposes the government.

    https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/








    So, at least they are anti-sodomy right?

    Well so are Muslim countries.





    Whatever,

    people want to believe that Putin and Vigano and Trump

    will come and save them

    and there is nothing that will deter them from that belief.

    "If we get out and vote everything will change for the better!"


    I'm sorry.  That's not how this is set up.



    In the mean time, there is a digital prison being erected all around you.


    Please, detach from the propaganda on the world stage and do whatever is necessary to become self sufficient.






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    Re: Msgr. Vigano on Standing for the City of God
    « Reply #17 on: November 18, 2022, 02:49:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on November 18, 2022, 11:28:19 AM
    In the mean time, there is a digital prison being erected all around you.


    Please, detach from the propaganda on the world stage and do whatever is necessary to become self sufficient.

    Will you be exempt from the "digital prison"? How will you do that, since you are active on the internet?

    Regarding the idea of detaching from the supposed propaganda on the world stage, do you also believe that we should detach ourselves from all Catholic authority?
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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Msgr. Vigano on Standing for the City of God
    « Reply #18 on: November 18, 2022, 03:28:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on November 18, 2022, 10:43:29 AM
    In the OP didn't see +Vigano say that.
    I read Vigano quoting an anti-Christian democrat.

    That's my issue with the haters here, that they either exaggerate or entirely make stuff up.  To claim that +Vigano said [something made up] is to slander him.  But people don't seem to care about that anymore.

    So, for instance, the other exaggeration (fabrication) has been the allegation that +Vigano has hailed Trump and Putin as two Messiahs that will save humanity.  He did nothing of the sort.  After the allegations, I went back and read what he wrote, and he wrote nothing of the sort.
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