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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Mr. .Pfeiffer on death bed
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2021, 04:06:51 PM »
Can someone tell me what the camp drowning situation is?

Farher Joseph Pfeiffer was in charge of an SSPX summer camp where two boys died by drowning.

Re: Mr. .Pfeiffer on death bed
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2021, 04:59:47 PM »
:pray:

I had no idea Mr. Pfeiffer was a pioneer of the traditional movement.  Can anyone provide a brief description?

Brief description, from memory. I hope I do Jack justice.

1. John (Jack) Pfieffer was a devout Catholic family man who worked as a Parish maintenance manager in Louisville, KY.
2. When the effects of Vatican II started to sink in, Jack started asking questions and was not getting answers.
3. In the early 1970's he decided to walk away from the Novus ordo and his job at the parish.
4. He met Father Hannifin who was also disgruntled with the Novus ordo missae and they collaborated to buy some rural land and start a TLM chapel.
5. They found maybe 100 acres in Boston KY near the Salt River.  The property was in Escrow already, but Father Hannifin still wanted to bid for it.
6. They prayed and put Miraculous Medals out on the property, where the hill rise was ideal for the location of the chapel. That week, they won their bid.
7. They built the chapel (Our Lady of Mount Carmel) and Rectory first and then the Pfeiffers built their home, if that gives you an idea of their priorities.
8. The Pfieffer family grew, with the birth of 8 boys. and the area became sort of a Pfeiffer Catholic Village.
9. They kept with Catholic tradition for four decades and were the mission chapel for the SSPX at least for 30 years. 
    They hosted the Silver City Benedictines before the found their property.
10. Father Urban Snyder who worked in his latter years there, thought Our Lady of Mount Carmel would be a Holy Shrine in the future.
      Note: Father had been early SSPX and was honored in an obituary by Bishop Williamson Link
11. I believe Father Hannifin was there until his death in 2005.
12. To summarize, Jack Pfeiffer and his family were extraordinary Catholics who put their Faith first and helped promote Tradition.

Then in 2013, a former lay exorcist, Santeria cultist going by the nickname name "Pablo" was invited to permanently live on the property... :facepalm:

Don't worry, Our Lady will clean things up soon.


Offline Matthew

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Re: Mr. .Pfeiffer on death bed
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2021, 05:13:28 PM »
That more than qualifies as "pioneer". Just being involved in the Traditional Movement in the 1970s pretty much qualifies you. Not every pioneer builds a railroad, serves as Sheriff, or becomes world-famous -- some just build a small log cabin for their family, grow some food, raise a few chickens, and live a humble life. But they are still pioneers, settling new ground, going where no one has gone before. Risking it all, suffering great deprivations, leaving much behind.

That goes for pioneers settling the West, as well as pioneers of the Traditional movement. Being one of 5 families helping a chapel "happen" in the beginning -- that's pioneering work if ever I saw it. You don't have to donate acreage, buildings, start a Catholic book publishing business, etc. but those things certainly earn additional brownie points.

Pioneering is about growing something from NOTHING. In 1965, there was no Traditional movement anywhere. No Traditional chapels, buildings, mailing lists, companies, anything. Right when the Mass started to change, the Traditional Movement began. TAN Books was founded in 1967. The earliest Trad chapels I've heard of were started in the 1970's.

Re: Mr. .Pfeiffer on death bed
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2021, 05:19:22 PM »
Brief description, from memory. I hope I do Jack justice.

1. John (Jack) Pfieffer was a devout Catholic family man who worked as a Parish maintenance manager in Louisville, KY.
2. When the effects of Vatican II started to sink in, Jack started asking questions and was not getting answers.
3. In the early 1970's he decided to walk away from the Novus ordo and his job at the parish.
4. He met Father Hannifin who was also disgruntled with the Novus ordo missae and they collaborated to buy some rural land and start a TLM chapel.
5. They found maybe 100 acres in Boston KY near the Salt River.  The property was in Escrow already, but Father Hannifin still wanted to bid for it.
6. They prayed and put Miraculous Medals out on the property, where the hill rise was ideal for the location of the chapel. That week, they won their bid.
7. They built the chapel (Our Lady of Mount Carmel) and Rectory first and then the Pfeiffers built their home, if that gives you an idea of their priorities.
8. The Pfieffer family grew, with the birth of 8 boys. and the area became sort of a Pfeiffer Catholic Village.
9. They kept with Catholic tradition for four decades and were the mission chapel for the SSPX at least for 30 years. 
    They hosted the Silver City Benedictines before the found their property.
10. Father Urban Snyder who worked in his latter years there, thought Our Lady of Mount Carmel would be a Holy Shrine in the future.
      Note: Father had been early SSPX and was honored in an obituary by Bishop Williamson Link
11. I believe Father Hannifin was there until his death in 2005.
12. To summarize, Jack Pfeiffer and his family were extraordinary Catholics who put their Faith first and helped promote Tradition.

Then in 2013, a former lay exorcist, Santeria cultist going by the nickname name "Pablo" was invited to permanently live on the property... :facepalm:

Don't worry, Our Lady will clean things up soon.


Thank you, Incred!  He seems quite a guy!

Re: Mr. .Pfeiffer on death bed
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2021, 08:40:02 PM »
Father Joseph Pfeiffer has a brother who is also a priest, is this correct? If so, what's the deal with him? I believe I've heard him mentioned but haven't heard any details...