The standards of the Church concerning modesty, is at the end of this post. We either follow them, or we do not. The more some of you speak, the more you condemn yourselves. Let your passions dictate your speech as much as you wish, but that does not change reality.
Simeon, you make it extremely difficult for us to reverence our elders. Wisdom used to come with age, but it doesn't seem to anymore these days. It is understandable for a woman to protect herself from insects, cold, etc. Simple solution: wear leggings underneath a skirt.
Please stop with this clerical worship, and yes, I mean the idolatrous kind. Clergy are not above criticism.
Fr. Roy admits publicly in this video, from 21:39-23:08, that he was non una-cuм in the SSPX as soon as Francis was elected, and remained so until he left in 2016. I have no obligation to reveal myself, those who have been at his parish know what he is like, and this information about him has been either seen by, or openly shared with his parishioners. I do not expect others to reveal themselves either.
To be clear, I doubt his consecration not only due to the +Thuc line, but because the Bishop who consecrated him was of the Dolan line, and there is legitimate concern surrounding Dolan's ordination not being valid, due to a mishap during the ordination ceremony that was never corrected by those assisting Archbishop Lefebvre, and this is written in a letter with signatures from Kelly, Sanborn, Skierka and others. I will attach it below. For those who can provide evidence that a one-handed ordination is valid, I would be glad to look at that.
St. Thomas Aquinas on the correction of prelates (Summa, II-II, 33, Article 4, Whether a subject is bound to correct his prelate?):
On the contrary, Augustine says in his Rule: "Show mercy not only to yourselves, but also to him who, being in the higher position among you, is therefore in greater danger." But fraternal correction is a work of mercy. Therefore even prelates ought to be corrected.I answer that, A subject is not competent to administer to his prelate the correction which is an act of justice through the coercive nature of punishment: but the fraternal correction which is an act of charity is within the competency of everyone in respect of any person towards whom he is bound by charity, provided there be something in that person which requires correction.St. Thomas Aquinas comes to my defence:
Reply to objection 3. We must also remember that when a man reproves his prelate charitably, it does not follow that he thinks himself any better, but merely that he offers his help to one who, "being in the higher position among you, is therefore in greater danger," as Augustine observes in his Rule quoted above.What is being perceived as my malice, is actually fraternal charity.
Fr. Zepeda, being an educated priest whose congregation sells a booklet entitled Marylike Modesty in their store run by the Sisters, should know better.
https://miqcenter.com/products/the-marylike-standards-of-modesty-in-dress-lf2999?variant=39002609671These modesty standards are often preached by members of the CMRI, but not enforced as they should be, and again, those who have had experience in the CMRI know this. The advertisement of the youth gathering is public knowledge, and my merely sharing a public fact with others is not a judgement or condemnation.
St. Thomas Aquinas again:
Reply to objection 2. It must be observed, however, that if the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly.The Pope's teachings only prove the disobedience of some of you even further.
Morals are not relative to the time, Michelle. This is a classic manifestation of a modernist mindset, where truth is relative. You have not presented any counter-evidence for modesty standards, but your own thoughts. Your opinion is irrelevant, and my opinion is equally irrelevant. I am simply repeating what the Church has taught.
An elderly lady calls me, a young woman, an old hag. Thank you for the nice laugh, Simeon.
Circular to the Superiors of Female Religious Institutes [Origin of Marylike Standards for Modesty in Dress]Rev. Mother Superior,It is certainly well known to you too that all good people deplore the immodesty of dress which nowadays is becoming more and more widespread among women, and how against this serious abuse several times, and even on solemn occasions, the Holy Father has raised his apostolic voice.The very serious words, full of meaning and warning, with which on the 15th of last August, promulgating the Decree on the heroic virtues of the Ven. Paola Frassinetti, His Holiness, in the Consistorial Hall denounced, once again, the danger which, due to the seductive charm of vanity, threatens many unwary souls, who even profess to belong to the flock of Jesus Christ and his Church.In this regard, it is painful to note that the deplored evil also tends to creep in among young girls who attend, as external students, some schools run by nuns and some festive congregations that are part of female religious institutes.To face the danger which, as it spreads and spreads, becomes increasingly serious, the Sacred Congregation of Religious, by mandate of the Holy Father, has issued the following injunctions:A) From now on, young girls who do not observe the rules of modesty and Christian decency in dressing will no longer be admitted to all schools, colleges, recreation centres, festive congregations and workshops directed by religious women.B) The same Superiors will have to exercise strict supervision over this and immediately exclude from the schools and works of their institutes those students who do not comply with these requirements.C) They will not allow themselves to be overcome in this by any human concern either for material interests or for the distinction of the social level of the families to which the pupils belong, even putting up with the possibility that the number of pupils may decrease.D) Furthermore, in carrying out their educational work, the Sisters will endeavour to gently and strongly inculcate in their students the love and taste for holy modesty, the index and guardian of the purity and gentle adornment of women.It will be Our care that these venerated provisions of the Holy Father are exactly and fully observed in His Rome. And to this end we will designate people we trust who, at the appropriate time and without notice, visit the schools, laboratories and festive congregations, and then report if the deplored abuses occur there.So that in all female religious institutes there is uniformity in judging the cases in which the provisions of the Sacred Congregation of Religious referred to above must be applied, we remind you that dress which leaves the base of the neck uncovered for more than two fingers cannot be considered modest, one that does not cover the arm at least up to the elbow and one that does not go down a little lower than the knee. Equally, the dress of transparent fabric is not modest, or the stocking that perfectly imitates the colour of the flesh so much as to make one believe that the leg is naked.We are confident that you and the staff dependent on you will take every care to carry out the superior provisions, just as we hope that the young girls of Rome will give the example of Christian modesty and obedience to the orders of the Vicar of Jesus. And with this confidence We bless you, your collaborators and those who attend the Institute directed by you.From the Vicariate, 24 September 1928Those who wish to see the original Italian, may view it in this thread:
https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/origin-of-marylike-standards-of-modesty/---------------------------------------------------------Instruction Concerning the Immodest Dress of Women(Cfr. Canon 1262, §2)At the exhortation of His Holiness, Pope Pius XI, to counteract the indecent fashions, many bishops have made regulations in their dioceses and forbidden Catholic ladies to wear fashionable but unbecoming dresses at the sacred functions in church, and especially when receiving Holy Communion. Though they had to suffer the insults that a heathenized press hurled against them, they remained firm in their prohibition of the unchristian fashion. The Sacred Congregation praises them for their constancy and publishes the following regulations:1. Pastors and preachers shall urge the Catholic women to wear modest dresses, and insist that the mothers stop their daughters from wearing unbecoming apparel.2. The parents have the obligation to care for the religious and moral education of their children and they must take special care to instruct the girls in the principles of Christian doctrine, and by word and example foster in their souls a love for the virtues of modesty and chastity.3. The parents must keep the girls away from public gymnastic exercises and exhibitions; if their daughters are forced to take part in such affairs, the parents should see that they wear clothes that are absolutely modest and never allow them to wear immodest uniforms.4. The heads of girls’ colleges and schools and the teachers must endeavor to instill into the minds of the girls such a love for modesty that they shall detest immodest dress.5. The heads of schools and the teachers shall not admit to their schools girls who wear unbecoming dress, or whose parents wear them; if those already admitted do not heed the warning, they shall be dismissed from those schools.6. The religious Sisterhoods shall not admit to their schools, colleges, chapels, or gymnasiums girls who do not dress in a manner becoming Christians, nor shall they tolerate girls already admitted.7. Pious associations of women should be formed and fostered whose purpose shall be to counteract by example and practical efforts the abuses of the unchristian fashions and to promote purity of morals and decency in dress.8. Into these associations are not to be received women who do not dress according to Christian modesty, and, if actual members violate the principles of the associations and do not heed the admonition to stop the abuse, they shall be expelled from the associations.9. Girls and women who wear immodest dress shall be denied Holy Communion, and shall not be admitted as sponsors at Baptism and Confirmation, and, if needs be, shall be stopped from entering any church.10. On those feast days during the year which present a special opportunity to inculcate Christian modesty, especially the feasts of Our Blessed Lady, the pastors and the priests in charge of women’s societies shall by appropriate sermons exhort the women to wear dresses that bespeak Christian modesty. On the Feast of the Immaculate Conception special prayers shall be offered in all cathedral and parochial churches and, if circuмstances permit, an appropriate sermon should be preached.11. The Diocesan Vigilance Committee, spoken of by the Holy Office on March 22, 1918, should at least once a year meet for the purpose of specially considering ways and means of promoting effectively Christian modesty of women.12. In order to put these Instructions into effect, the local Ordinaries shall every three years, together with the report on religious teaching (cfr. Motu Proprio, June 29, 1923), inform the Sacred Congregation of the Council on the matter of immodest dress of women and what the Ordinaries have done to counteract that evil.Source:
https://novusordowatch.org/2015/12/year-of-condemnation-01/From "Dressing with Dignity" by Colleen Hammond:"In order to destroy Catholicism, it is necessary to commence by suppressing woman... But since we cannot suppress woman, let us corrupt her with the Church..." (Letter of Vindez to Nubius, pen names of two leaders of the Alta Vendita, the highest lodge of the Italian Carbonari, Masonic revolutionaries, Aug. 9, 1838.)
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