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More stagnation ....
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 03:35:09 PM »
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The Kentucky faction has never really been taken serious so perhaps when you state it is a remarkable enterprise you are being facetious.


If the Kentucky faction is not taken seriously, why would a nobody from another country be so interested in it to the point of writing "open letters" to them?




If you've got all your teeth you won't after your next visit to Brazil.



 :baby:

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 03:42:00 PM »
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The Kentucky faction has never really been taken serious so perhaps when you state it is a remarkable enterprise you are being facetious.

If the Kentucky faction is not taken seriously, why would a nobody from another country be so interested in it to the point of writing "open letters" to them?


If you've got all your teeth you won't after your next visit to Brazil.


His Achilles' heel teeth you found, dear Militia Jesu.


P.S. At least he doesn't want to shoot you, in contrast to Mrs Elsa's wants.



Yeah, don't be so assumptive.


My guess is you should've learnt about one famous portuguese proverb by now:

"Cachorro que late não morde" / "Dogs that bark too much don't bite"

Plus, I'm vaccinated against rabies transmitted by street mutts just in case. Yes, I'm always ready for them!




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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 04:38:12 PM »
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A bond is supposed to exist between the two rival bishops using female intermediaries from this world and the next.


Except I think Mgr Fellay is largely ignoring both Bishop Williamson and the Resistance.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 01:59:22 AM »
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It did not take long to see more fragmentation; I think it is cyclical and may have something to do with the weather. Let us blame global warming!  

Yes, the five part Dawn of the Zombies soap opera was a big mistake. I think here the bish is playing with his audience and is trying to re-establish some kind of position within the ever-present confusion called the SSPX. A bond is supposed to exist between the two rival bishops using female intermediaries from this world and the next. Bp. W was left holding the parcel and and has duly passed it on to his audience to determine the value of its contents. This is his typical modus operandi: leadership from the rear. Naturally, we are therefore inclined to contrast this style with that of the more active within the 'loose association' and credit does have to go to the Kentucky faction for their remarkable enterprise over the last few years. In saying this, I do not have to agree with all of their positions or their way of working.

The influence Bp. W has had and is having within the trad world does deserve some in depth analysis. Maybe because he is the only bishop on the 'right' side of the current Lefebvre divide that he can do no wrong for some people. That and the charisma from being a very rare polished Oxbridge graduate that promotes a uniquely high church product  for the English-speaking world along with the added bonus of being very politically incorrect. Doubtless he is following in ABL's footsteps to some extent but is fearful of doing more than he did. Herein lies that weakening stagnation that infuriates the more active trads. I feel therefore an examination of this characteristic in the bishop cannot be undertaken without looking at how it also infected ABL's thinking that in due course solidified as the torpid SSPX. Now, I am beginning to feel very drowsy .......... all things SSPX is very tiring!  

Wise Wessex.  You are the most observant among us!  Perhaps a little black coffee for your drowsing sleeps:

Let's look at this in a larger context.  What we have here might also simply be the age-old two sides of Catholicism, namely the opportune Jesuitical diplomats vs. the principled Franciscan and Augustinian zelanti.  The optimistic take would be that the "ever-present confusion called the SSPX" might just be some dreadfully clever Jesuitical diplomacy led by Bishop Fellay whose true impetus will be more fatally insidious to the Novus Ordo than can be dreamt of in our philosophy.  Perhaps there is some method to the SSPX madness?  However that would leave Bishop Williamson as he who has fallen down between two chairs onto a painfully hard stone floor beneath.  

Then the Zelanti would be elsewhere, neither among the hapless Resistance nor among the Fideist (aka brain dead) dogmatic sedevacantists, but rather among the zealous Catholic Nationalists of popular nightmare.  Strange as this must strike our sometimes dull-minded fellow bloggers, perhaps Madame Le Pen has much more to do with our Catholic future than the crestfallen and now demoralised Bishop Williamson together with all his many fast-moving parcels.

Instead of Dawn of the Zombies, perhaps the movie now playing is actually Dawn of the Parousia.  Just an apocalyptic Franciscan thought!  In any event the Jesuitism of the SSPX may make much more sense when we contrast it with its actual contemporary Catholic opposite.  At present Pan-European Nationalism (necessarily in essence Roman and Catholic) is exactly like a loaded gun (cf. the on-going Ukrainian cινιℓ ωαr and the supervolcano now erupting in and around Jerusalem, aka Armageddon).  Bishop Williamson is playing comic relief during the Intermission, but the Second Act promises to be not for the faint-hearted.  

Belt in, good slumbering Wessex -- we are out from the starting gate and in for a heart-stopping wild ride all the way down to the wire.

   

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 01:03:30 PM »
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Wise Wessex.  You are the most observant among us!


Well, if you can't really understand them, they must be wise.  Franciscan and Wessex are apparently joined now in a bond of mutually shared wisdom.  It is, of course, a higher wisdom, or gnosis,  beyond the ken of most "dull minded bloggers,"  These simple folks, uncomprehending and stupified, sit by silently with their thumbs in their mouths.  What else can they do?  Franciscan and Wessex observe things which the intellects of the average blogger can not possibly apprehend.   Wessex speaks of another bond which supposedly exists "between the two rival bishops using female intermediaries from this world and the next."  That bond, of course,  does not approach in truth, the bond which now exists between Wessex and Franciscan.  What is more, the bond uniting the bishops involves a female intermediary from the next world.  Naturally, the unwashed blogger, dimwitted as he is, catches on immediately, and dismisses the absurdity of it all out of hand.  Whereas, since he hasn't the vaguest notion about what really unites Wessex and Franciscan, he is tempted to think that maybe the pair are on much firmer and more realistic ground than the two bishops.  Of course, that same blogger may find out later that Wessex and Franciscan do not share a bond of wisdom at all.  Such "wisdom," it may later be discovered, is just plain old horse_____t.  :shocked: