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Re: More on Voris
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2020, 11:42:50 PM »
Jose Maria is a тαℓмυdic name?
How is your reading comprehension?

Escriva was a тαℓмυdist, a marrano. The name is the first clue.


Re: More on Voris
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2020, 12:31:32 PM »
I found an interesting audio recording of Fr. Hesse, where he describes Opus Dei as "the heart and the brain of the conciliar church." Other forum members have probably already heard this at one time or another.

Fr. Hesse also says that Escriva admitted Communists as members of Opus Dei, even though it was an excommunicable offense to be a member of the Communist party at that time. He says too that the founder of Opus Dei (Escriva) wanted a Church based on the laity, which makes sense. It's possible, IMO, that Opus Dei and it's friends and supporters don't want a group that has a strong priesthood to gain any momentum, such as the SSPX (which is not really so strong anymore, IMO, but they don't realize that).

Fr. Hesse audio:


This is great!

The coon hounds have been unleashed on Voris.

Good find Meg on Father Hesse.  A good 3rd party source.

But, I just can’t believe you posted a TIA article ?


Re: More on Voris
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2020, 01:06:49 PM »
Bottom line: Fr. Vallet was a great priest, you should learn everything about him.  Fr. Escriva was a modernist fake Fr. Vallet, not worth knowing anything more about him or Opus Dei (rat poison is 99% nutritious food):
Fr. Vallet is known to no one today, and his counterfeit is actually known as  Saint Escriva by the counterfeit Vatican II church. A counterfeit saint of a counterfeit church. Like Saint Martin Luther of the Lutheran church.

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Re: More on Voris
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2020, 03:28:37 PM »
This is great!

The coon hounds have been unleashed on Voris.

Good find Meg on Father Hesse.  A good 3rd party source.

But, I just can’t believe you posted a TIA article ?

I had a feeling that you might say something about. The TIA article that is in the background (in the video part) isn't a part of Fr. Hesse' argument against Escriva/Opus Dei. It's an aside, so to speak. I didn't read it. But the video is very good, and it's okay that TIA was concerned enough to post that audio of Fr. Hesse.

Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day. ;)

Offline Meg

Re: More on Voris
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2020, 03:45:40 PM »
Meg, not by any stretch of the imagination can you call Opus Dei traditional.

Do you know that OD priests do not receive their vocation from God, but are chosen by higher-ups in the cult?

Escriva was a тαℓмυdist, a marrano. The name is the first clue.

You're right. And Opus Dei are Vll groupies for sure. They want to replace the hierarchy with the laity. They want to be a Church of the laity, though they do have a few priests, whom they call 'prelates'. Yes, I have have lately learned that Opus Dei priests are chosen by higher-ups in the cult, probably by lay members of Opus Dei. That just very Protestant. Nothing Catholic about that.

What is also evident is that the lay members of Opus Dei are not supposed to ever reveal their Opus Dei membership to anyone on the outside without permission from their director. I think that Voris, Lamont, Jones, and the others who are affiliated with Opus Dei might indeed be Opus Dei members, since they aren't allowed to admit that they are members. We may never know for sure.

Michael Voris' original TV studio was located at the same location (same buildings) as former Opus Dei offices (after Opus Dei left the site, I think), according to Randy Engel. Obviously, Voris has strong ties to Opus Dei. Marc Brammer is an admitted Opus Dei member, and he is on the board of Voris' CMTV.

I didn't know that Escriva was a тαℓмυdist, but it makes sense.