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Offline TheRecusant

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More Menzingen Grovelling
« on: February 12, 2013, 02:06:36 PM »
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    The recent Menzingen press statement regarding the abdication of Benedict XVI is very interesting, for all the wrong reasons (what's new!) A full analysis can be found here:


    http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/show/23617799-menzingen-response-to-b-xvi-abdication-announcement



    If I post the whole article, it'll lose the formatting, and I haven't time or patience to sit and re-format it. Besides, we direct people to Cathinfo, so you chaps can visit us once in a while! Sorry. Indulge me a little!

    In summary:

    *Menzingen seems to imply that the SSPX is currently not much use to the Church, and can only be of any use in ending the crisis if it signs an agreement;

    *Menzingen shamelessly misquotes their own Holy Founder, Archbishop Lefebvre, to the point where they make him say virtually the oposite of what he in fact clearly intended to say;

    *Menzingen appear, once again, to view the SSPX as an end in itself, and the interests of the SSPX as being something distinct from the interests of the Church;

    *Overall, the thing is just so soppy and wet. If a Catholic from 1900 fell through a timewarp and this were the first thing they read they would be left with no clue that Benedict XVI is one of the main (today, arguably the main) perpetrator of the modernism which is causing the crisis in the Church.


    I've not had time to read everything on the forum, so if anyone has already made the same points, apologies.


    Offline SeanJohnson

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    More Menzingen Grovelling
    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 06:56:57 AM »
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  • Very well stated.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    More Menzingen Grovelling
    « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 01:00:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: TheRecusant
    *Overall, the thing is just so soppy and wet. If a Catholic from 1900 fell through a timewarp and this were the first thing they read they would be left with no clue that Benedict XVI is one of the main (today, arguably the main) perpetrator of the modernism which is causing the crisis in the Church.

    What will the one welcoming his successor be like I wonder.
    Fili Redemptor mundi Deus, miserere nobis.

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    More Menzingen Grovelling
    « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 04:16:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: miserere nobis
    Quote from: TheRecusant
    *Overall, the thing is just so soppy and wet. If a Catholic from 1900 fell through a timewarp and this were the first thing they read they would be left with no clue that Benedict XVI is one of the main (today, arguably the main) perpetrator of the modernism which is causing the crisis in the Church.

    What will the one welcoming his successor be like I wonder.


    Quite.

    I don't know if it's just me, but it does seem that its at the start of a Papacy when "loyal" "conservative" optimism is at its worst, at its height, at its most trusting and naive. Towards the end, the encuмbent has committed enough outrages that even the most optimistic would-be-loyalist cannot deny them. That appears to have been how it was with JPII and Benedict XVI, and, I think, even with Paul VI.