New website that just appeared on October 4, 2015

https://ambrosemoran.wordpress.com/

Quote from: Chiara

New website that just appeared on October 4, 2015

https://ambrosemoran.wordpress.com/

Fascinating information.
I wonder who put this up!

It is fascinating. But this needs to be explained:


October 4, 2015
Letter of Incardination, Toronto Eparchy

As a priest of the Archeparchy of Lviv, Ukraine, Fr. Moran was put on loan by Cardinal Slipyj to Bishop Borecky of Toronto.

This letter, dated 1975, is addressed to Fr. William Moran from Bishop Isidore Borecky, incardinating him into the Ukrainian Catholic Eparchy (diocese) of Toronto for a period of two years.

But ... this is what +PG+ posted earlier on in this thread (emphasis mine):

"I am going to let the cat out of the bag. I have been working on this lead for the past week, but I don't have the time or desire to finish and piece all this together myself. So here you go.

Here is what I believe is going on. Bishop ambrose moran is the "school janitor" that fr. clarence kelly discovered and concluded ordained fr. bill moran from the 1976 hunting NY investigation when Bill tried to join the sspx. I believe that ambrose moran and fr. bill morans are brothers. I believe that Ambrose moran is using the old photos of his brother fr. bill moran as his own today.

And, I believe this because I spoke with fr. bill moran last saturday. He exists, and he is not ambrose. He is still living in hunting long island NY. He works as a priest for citi ministries, which is an organization for married and liberal x catholic priests. Check out there website. He refused to hear and answer my questions, but he did confirm his identity. You will see his phone number and email address on their website.

I believe bill was born in 1952, and that is only three years off of ambrose morans birthdate of 1949. What are the odds? Two catholic clerics from the same town born around the same time with the same exact name is too suspicious. They would have bumped into each other eventually, which could explain the fact for why ambrose moran knew the "school janitor" rumor that had to do with fr. bill moran. Or, he knows the rumor/story because he is his brother, and is the janitor(that he mentioned in his sermon). Fr. kelly and fr. sanborn were the only priests involved at the time. Luckily, another seminarian knew and remembered it. So, there is a connection between ambrosen and fr. bill. I think it is more than likely that they are brothers. That is my hunch, and I am calling it right now.

I also believe they are brothers because it explains why ambrose has all those pictures from the orcm days. ambrose moran is using photos of fr. bill moran, because brothers look alike, and he can get away with it. This explain why all the photos from the orcm "late 70s" show "bishop ambrose" only as a priest, and not a bishop. It is because it was not ambrose, but his brother bill, who was only regarded as a priest(if he is one at all). This also makes the photoshop claims for his bishop pictures more believable. Because, if we can excuse the priestly pics(1970s newspaper), we no longer have to give benefit of doubt to the others. And, one of his pictures is clearly not him. The picture in the upper left hand of the +slipyj with ambrose photo is a different guy(and old guy) with a grey beard, but in the same vestments.

I am in the process of contacting the rockwell long island diocese to find informaton about bill moran. I am awaiting a call back. All that I want and need to know about bill moran, is WHO ORDAINED HIM. Perhaps I will email citi ministries this direct question, because they have not called me back this second time. I spoke with them once, but they haven't called me back, and I am just too busy to wait on them.

So, have at it guys. I am somewhat checking out of this. Boston KY is a red light. I have other things I have to do. These guys are con men. Ambrose might not even be a bishop. And Bill moran might not be a priest. It may take a lot of work to uncover that. So, we need more workers. It is taking to long by myself. So, join in. We will eventually get the facts."


http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=38165&min=30&num=5

I'm so confused. In one of the videos, he introduces himself as "William Moran." Is Ambrose his ordination name? I know most Eastern Catholic priests get a new name at their ordination. Is "Ambrose" Mr/Fr./Bishop (?) William Moran's priestly name?

P.S.: I don't live in Kentucky or even Texas. I will probably be little affected by this situation. However, I am finding the story behind this man quite addictive and fascinating. I don't think anything like this has ever happened before in Traditional Catholic circles for as long as I can remember.

Here is the first clear red flag.  The blue ink on the "note" from maximos v to ambrose is clearly different.  The +bishop ambrose blue ink is not as dark as the other blue ink, and the letters are different.  So, it is handwriting from someone else, and done at a separate time.  

Opus - also note that the top two look very different from the bottom signature for amrose's consecration.  But, that can happen.  Sometimes my signature varies.

And, again, what is with the black and white photo at the very top?  Why is it not a color photo?

centro america - I also noticed that there is no information about his ordination.  And, this is what the story really revolves around at this point.

BTW, I am taking pictures of all of this.  Perhaps for those who are savy with computer technology can save these entire pages intact on their computers.  Because, ambrose might want/try to delete all of this information after we have uncovered the fraud.  Which, I do believe will be there.

Someone should simply send a clear message to the Ukrainian Eparchy in Toronto or elsewhere asking about him.

obscurus - it is not gauranteed at all that those priestly photographs are of ambrose(except for perhaps the children photograph, which I may be wrong about).  They don't look as much like him as his seminary photos do.  I still think they are of the fr. william moran who currently resides in huntington long island born in 1952.   And, I think ambrose and him are family(probably brothers).

the whole thing stinks

1974 ordained by whom? all pics show him in NY the eparchy of Stamford Conneticut.

1975 incardinated by the bishop of Toronto at +Slipji's insistence? why is there no docuмent from Stamford?
 
why would he consecrate him a bishop with right of succession when there is no actual Ukrainian Patriarchate they are only really metropolitans[/i]  ?

1977 +Slipji actually consecrated 3 men without Papal mandate and brawled with Paul VI over it. why would he do a consecration in public when he already did a consecration in secret?
 
Wiki

In 1977 Slipyj consecrated Ivan Choma, Stepan Czmil and Lubomyr Husar as bishops without approval of the pope in an act of exposition of patriarchal aspirations. These consecrations caused much annoyance to the Roman Curia as episcopal consecrations without papal permission are considered illicit in Roman Canon Law but not Eastern Canon Law.

the docuмents contain some things that need clarification,plus why would you need to post obscure pictures when there should be 2 available

1- picture of your priestly ordination.

2- pic of something that proved to the underground church you are legit, and i mean something that would absolutely not be an episcopal consecration docuмent  those were not given since there would be possibility of it falling into the wrong hands. ambrose needs to study more on the rite he claims to be bishop of