Author Topic: More info about Mr Bishop Ambrose Moran (Read 101084 times)

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #275 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:03:29 PM »

Peoples signatures can change substantially from time to time.I myself have received a few calls from my bank over the years questioning whether my signature on checks was genuine because they aroused suspicion.

Colombiere · « **Reply #276 on:** October 28, 2015, 02:50:18 PM »

Was Bishop Borecky Polish? Was Polish his first language and does the second signature have any similarities with handwritten Polish or Russian? The first signature looks like a typical North American mess. It's odd to me that the first signature seems to try to write the capital letter I with the loops, sort of, and then completely ignores copying the rest of the second signature.

Colombiere · « **Reply #277 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:14:38 PM »

I don't know if it's been uploaded on here but Bishop Kirkland's Orthodox certicate of consecration is available online. It's on the same stationary and has the same address and phone number as Moran's ordination paper. Ilnyckyj's signature can be compaired on those two docuмents if anyone wants to.

sea leopard · « **Reply #278 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:22:22 PM »

Fr. Pfeiffer should not be sad alone. In fact Moran was not investigated by the Ukranian Catholic Church as well and the ultimate task to unmask him was left to you and a few good members here which by October 11 (when I joined) was already exposed and confirmed that Ambrose can be anything but a good liar.

Good reminder above and

Did not the SSPX some years back look into his "credentials" and did they not discount him??.........(Fr. Ward I think.)

Anyone still with/inside the SSPX to shed more light on this individual. Please come forward.

Thank you.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #279 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:24:32 PM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Peoples signatures can change substantially from time to time. I myself have received a few calls from my bank over the years questioning whether my signature on checks was genuine because they aroused suspicion.

You have a good bank. They SHOULD check signatures but all too often do NOT. I had to challenge a check that had been debited from my checking balance, when only after I had requested a copy of it did I see that it was not my check. It had someone else's name and address on it, some entirely different signature that was not even remotely close to any of the letters in my name, and was payable to a company name I had never heard of. The only thing that matched my account was the number printed at the bottom. The bank agreed it was fraud and refunded the lost money, as I recall around $600, but they could not explain how such a bad fake could have made it through the system.

I don't claim to be an expert in handwriting, and it's true as you say that signatures can change over time. However, if it is the same person, in my experience, a certain style that existed let's say early in life, is very likely to still exist many years later in life. Any good bank looking at these two example signatures would have to be suspicious.

That's why it would be nice to know if the first example above is more recent, that is, to be found on a docuмent that is not very old, and if the second example is from an earlier docuмent and therefore written by a younger person -- assuming it was the same person writing it as the person who wrote the first example. For if the first example is on a docuмent from say 40 years ago and the second example is from a docuмent of 5 years ago, to me, that would be a serious red flag.

Signatures can change over time, but it's hard to imagine how this signature could change from the first example into the second example at a later date.

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