Author Topic: More info about Mr Bishop Ambrose Moran (Read 101202 times)

Colombiere · « **Reply #240 on:** October 15, 2015, 09:59:13 PM »

Does anyone know Fr. Hewko's hometown? I remember that he's Ukrainian and I believe from New York and about 45-50 years old. I'm not sure of his age but I'd like someone to ask him if he has any personal memory of Ambrose Moran. I'd also like to know if Ambrose Moran actually met Archbishop Lefebvre and if there is a photo. Did he know Fr. Malachi Martin who also lived in New York and supported the "underground Church"? Can he release his mother's maiden name and his Serbian or Ukrainian lineage. I believe these are his paternal grandparents:

Name    William F. Moran
Spouse's Name    Alvina Panela
Event Date    15 Oct 1901
Event Place    Manhattan, New York, New York
Father's Name    Henry Moran
Mother's Name    Bridget Mcbride
Spouse's Father's Name    John Panela
Spouse's Mother's Name    Adele ...

So if this info is correct his father was 50% Irish and is the Panela Italian, Greek, or Portuguese? His baptismal certificate should certainly be available from the Church and it would confirm whether he was "born" Catholic or Orthodox. I'm presuming his Eastern Rite is courtesy of his mother.

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #241 on:** October 15, 2015, 10:09:19 PM »

I'm getting the impression from all these investigations that Ambrose can be whatever religion you need him to be. Rent a priest. Rent a bishop. He seems really light on doctrine.

But I don't believe he's a bishop of any church.

PG · « **Reply #242 on:** October 15, 2015, 11:09:38 PM »

ecclesiae - That video you posted on the te deum by pablo was interesting. After pablo says God will raise up a bishop converted from Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ he says, "and there will be four new sign posts on the road into hell". What do you think that means?

Do you think it could mean this? "There will be four new signposts on the road into hell, and they will read: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic."

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #243 on:** October 16, 2015, 10:03:43 AM »

I received a reply from the Ukrainian Catholic Eparchy of Toronto. It was an email. I am pasting it here:

Quote

Dear [Clemens Maria],
Your are the third person this week who is inquiring about William Basil Ambrose Moran.

It would be appreciate that if there is some formal investigation regarding the status if this individual, that a formal inquiry be made to this office.

I submit to you 2 docuмents

1) attests to his ordination to the priesthood. The letterhead states Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox by the Grace of Kiev.

Therefore, he would have been ordained into the Orthodox Autocephalous Church.

The letter with protocol # 2/75 (on the website) was a letter of accepting Fr. Ambrose as a priest to sevre in the Eparchy. It is NOT a letter of incardination. Canon law has specific procedures for official transference of incardination.

Fr. Ambrose is NOT and has NEVER BEEN incardinated to this Eparchy.

Another letter allegedly from Bishop Isidore to Ambrose. Is suspect.

It has no protocol number. It is dated Aug. 26, 1976 A later letter dated June 30, 1980 is signed by "Fr." Moran.

I also submit to you copies of Bishop Isidore's signature written on 3 different occasions. You could compare the signature of that letter with Bishop Isidore's authentic signature.

2) The second letter (attached) was received by Bishop Isidore
Dated June 30, 1980.
Here "Fr. " Moran revealed that he has submitted to the Orthodox Church

Evidently there is a docuмent stating that Patriarch Slypyj and Bishop Isidore consecrated Ambrose.

The attached signatures could help authenticate or discredit that docuмent.

Sincerely,

Rt. Rev. Bohdan Bilinsky

I'm attaching the 2 docuмents referenced.

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #244 on:** October 16, 2015, 10:05:38 AM »

I also have the docuмent containing the signatures. However, I'm not sure if I should post it. I don't want William Moran to have access to these signatures. But if the signatures are already available on the web, it wouldn't matter. Does anyone know? Any thoughts on this issue?