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RomanCatholic1953 · « **on:** October 05, 2020, 01:53:04 PM »

More Commentary from Archbishop Vigano

THERE CAN BE NO QUESTION THAT JORGE BERGOLIO HAS DEALT THE MOST DEVASTATING BLOWS TO THE PAPACY OF THE Catholic Church, PRAY TO GOD THAT THE BLOWS DO NO LEAVE LASTING EFFECTS ON THE CHURCH OF Jesus Christ
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Viganò: Amid Vatican scandals, Pope Francis has dealt the ‘most devastating blows’ to Papacy, Church
‘The operation we have been witnessing for the past seven terrible years is clearly aimed at the destruction of the Catholic institution, through the loss of credibility, disaffection and disgust for the actions and unworthy behavior of its members’Fri Oct 2, 2020 – 1:33 pm EST

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October 2, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Archbishop Viganò today published a statement in Italy about the current crisis at the Vatican with regard to Cardinal Angelo Becciu and his sudden dismissal. In it, he argues that it is not an accident that such scandals take place under this current pontificate, but, rather, that this is part of the system. The Pope surrounds himself, according to the Italian archbishop, “with compromised characters,” and the subsequent scandals aim at the “destruction of the Catholic institution,” the Church.

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Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò

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In Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s new intervention (see full text below), as published today by the Italian newspaper La Verità, the prelate draws a parallel between the French Revolution and today’s situation in the Church. He writes that “I believe, instead, that behind this dripping of scandals involving prominent personalities of the Hierarchy and Roman Curia there is the deliberate will to demolish the Church herself, to discredit her before the world, to compromise her authority and credibility before the faithful.” Thus, Viganò sees an “instrumental method” on the part of the current Pope whose actions increase the loss of reputation of the Catholic Church.
Here, Viganò points to the preparations for the French Revolution where Freemasonic and other sects aimed at corrupting first the character and moral life of the French nobility so as to increase the indignation of the French population against their ruling class, just as it is now taking place in the Catholic Church.
He writes that this “modus operandi [of demeaning the hierarchy] is not new. It was adopted – with less media impact but still with the same purposes – on the eve of the French Revolution. Making the aristocracy hateful; corrupting the nobility with vices unknown to the people; eradicate the sense of moral responsibility towards the subjects; causing scandals and fomenting injustice towards the weakest and the poorest; to enslave the ruling class to the interests of sects and lodges: this was the premise, artfully created by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, to arouse the discredit of the Monarchy and legitimize the revolts of the masses, prepared by a few seditious in the pay of the Lodges.”
Here, we can clearly see a parallel to today’s ecclesial hierarchy that is plagued with accusations of cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse and financial corruption. Archbishop Viganò proposes that the way out of this corruption is to “recognize the deviation from the right path, retrace the path taken and take the path that Our Lord marked with His Blood. SUBSCRIBEto LifeSite’s daily headlinesSUBSCRIBEU.S. Canada World Catholic
The prelate also warns those conservative and moderate Catholics who hope to preserve the post-conciliar Church as she is and merely hope for a better pope.
“Let the moderates think carefully,” Viganò writes, “that a next Pope only slightly less progressive than Bergoglio can sedate souls and save the Papacy and the Church. Because the theological hatred of God’s enemies, once the good Shepherds have been eliminated and the faithful removed, will not stop before those who today deplore the present Pontificate but defend its conciliar matrix: the conservatives who believe they can distance themselves so much from modernists as well as traditionalists will end up like the Girondins.”
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Archbishop Viganò’s full statement:
Much has been written in recent days about yet another Vatican scandal, this time involving Cardinal Becciu, Prefect of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints. Faced with accusations that still have to be proven, Jorge Mario Bergoglio’s response seemed to be dictated more by anger than by love of truth, more by a delusion of omnipotence than by the will for justice – in any case by a serious despotic abuse of authority.
From this point of view, we can now believe that the deprivation of the Sacred Purple and the reduction to the lay state have become summary executions, with a very strong media impact in favor of the image of those who inflict them, beyond the real moral and criminal responsibilities of the condemned. Mr. McCarrick, accused of very serious crimes, was directly condemned by the Pope, without the trial docuмents and testimonies concerning him being made public. With this ploy, Bergoglio wanted to give an image of himself that however contrasts with the reality of the facts, since his stated desire to “clean up” the Vatican does not correspond to the fact of his having surrounded himself with widely compromised characters – to begin precisely by McCarrick – giving them official assignments, then kicking them out as soon as their scandals were exposed. And on all of them, as those who work in the Curia know well, already weighed serious suspicions, if not even any detailed evidence of guilt.https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html
In confirmation of this instrumental method, indeed of the ruse of the Bergoglian moralizing action, there are the cases of upright and completely innocent people, who have not been spared the infamy of discredit, media exposure, judicial pillory: let us just think of the case of Cardinal Pell, abandoned to himself in a sham trial set up by an Australian court, and for which the Holy See refrained from any intervention which would have been its duty. In other cases, such as that of Zanchetta, Bergoglio spent himself in an all-out defense of his protégé, even going so far as to accuse the victims of the Prelate of perjury, and promoting him to a position of high responsibility at APSA that was specifically created for him. And today Galantino and Zanchetta are de facto administrators of the entire patrimony of the Holy See and now also of the portfolio of the Secretariat of State. And what about unpresentable characters like Bertone and Maradiaga, Peña Parra and Paglia? Living scandals…
Birds of a feather stick together.
Let us therefore leave aside the innocent and guilty, united by the lynching artfully induced by those who wanted to get rid of them or because they had shown themselves not very inclined to compromise, or because their zeal for the cause of Santa Marta had led them to a dangerous ease in a certainty of impunity. People of mirrored honesty and great faith such as Ettore Gotti Tedeschi or Cardinal Pell, without forgetting Eugenio Hasler and the mere executors of Becciu in the Secretariat of State, were treated worse than a serial abuser like Theodore McCarrick or a (presumed) manipulator like Becciu. It is to be believed that the annoyance of having honest and incorruptible collaborators led to their expulsion, just as the blackmail of immoral and dishonest collaborators was considered a sort of guarantee of their loyalty and their silence. Time has shown that honest men have suffered injustice with dignity without discrediting the Vatican or the person of the Pope; it is to be believed that on the other side the corrupt and the vicious will, in turn, resort to blackmail against their accusers, as courtiers without honor have always done.
In this recent event, the constant theme that can be seen is the attitude of Santa Marta, which has been compared in many quarters to that of a South American junta. I believe, instead, that behind this dripping of scandals involving prominent personalities of the Hierarchy and Roman Curia there is the deliberate will to demolish the Church herself, to discredit her before the world, to compromise her authority and credibility before the faithful. The operation we have been witnessing for the past seven terrible years is clearly aimed at the destruction of the Catholic institution, through the loss of credibility, disaffection and disgust for the actions and unworthy behavior of its members; an operation that began with the sɛҳuąƖ scandals already under the previous Pontificates, but which this time is to be seen as the protagonist, as the main actor precisely the one who sits on the Throne, and who with his own words and works is able to deal the most devastating blows to the Papacy and the Church.
The “demythologization of the Papacy” advocated by progressives essentially consists in its ridicule, in its profanation, that is, in making it profane, not sacred. And it is unheard of and very serious that this subversive operation is carried out by those who hold that Papacy and wear its robes, albeit awkwardly. Similarly, the profanation of the Church is carried out with a scientific method by the very leaders of the Hierarchy, who make themselves disliked by the people of God and are pitied by the world, under the smug gaze of the mainstream media.
This modus operandi is not new. It was adopted – with less media impact but still with the same purposes – on the eve of the French Revolution. Making the aristocracy hateful; corrupting the nobility with vices unknown to the people; eradicate the sense of moral responsibility towards the subjects; causing scandals and fomenting injustice towards the weakest and the poorest; to enslave the ruling class to the interests of sects and lodges: this was the premise, artfully created by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, to arouse the discredit of the Monarchy and legitimize the revolts of the masses, prepared by a few seditious in the pay of the Lodges. And if the nobles did not fall into the trap of vice and corruption, the conspirators could accuse them of the wickedness of others and condemn them to the gallows under the pressure of hatred cultivated among the rebels, among the criminals, among the enemies of the King and of God. A mob of infamous ones that had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Today, after more than two centuries of a tyranny of revolutionary thought, the Church is the victim of the same system adopted against the Monarchy. The aristocracy of the Church is as corrupt as, and perhaps more than, the French nobles, and does not understand that this vulnus to its reputation and authority is the necessary premise for the guillotine, the massacre, the fury of the rebels. And also to Terror. Let the moderates think carefully that a next Pope only slightly less progressive than Bergoglio can sedate souls and save the Papacy and the Church. Because the theological hatred of God’s enemies, once the good Shepherds have been eliminated and the faithful removed, will not stop before those who today deplore the present Pontificate but defend its conciliar matrix: the conservatives who believe they can distance themselves so much from modernists as well as traditionalists will end up like the Girondins.
“Mundamini, qui fertis vasa Domini” says Wisdom (Is 52: 11). The only way to get out of the crisis of the Church, which is a crisis of Faith and Morals, is to recognize the deviation from the right path, retrace the path taken and take the path that Our Lord marked with His Blood: the way of Calvary, of the Cross, of the Passion. When the Shepherds will not have the smell of the sheep but rather the sweet perfume of the Chrism with which they have been made similar to the High and Eternal Priest, they will be conformed again to the divine model of Christ, and with Him they will know how to sacrifice themselves for the glory of God and the salvation of souls. Nor will the divine Shepherd make them lack His Grace. As long as they want to please the world, the world will compensate them with its deceptions, its lies, its most abject vices. The choice, after all, is always radical: eternal glory with Christ or eternal damnation far from Him.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò
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LeDeg · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2020, 02:49:05 PM »

Pray that Jorge does not have lasting effects?? Is he serious?!

The man canonized JPII and Paul VI!

forlorn · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2020, 04:51:52 PM »

Quote from: LeDeg on October 05, 2020, 02:49:05 PM

Pray that Jorge does not have lasting effects?? Is he serious?!

The man canonized JPII and Paul VI!

I wonder what Ab. Vigano thinks of those canonisations. IIRC I saw him referring to JPII as just "Pope John Paul II", but I don't know if he was implying anything by that or not.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2020, 05:25:05 PM »

For any who would like to study more on the Masonic preparation for the French Revolution, I highly recommend the classic “Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism,” by Fr. Augustin Barruel.

He was a contemporary of many of the key players of the time, and details the advent of the Illuminati, and their methods conspiring against altar, throne, and society.

songbird · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2020, 07:51:45 PM »

So, Vigano, speaks of all the horrible scandals in the church. Well, where was he when all these scandals took place? He was not a part of the picture? What was his solution for all the hurt and pain to so many victims? Speaking now is too late!

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2020, 08:21:15 AM »

Quote from: forlorn on October 05, 2020, 04:51:52 PM

I wonder what Ab. Vigano thinks of those canonisations. IIRC I saw him referring to JPII as just "Pope John Paul II", but I don't know if he was implying anything by that or not.

I think it’s obvious those canonizations were invalid, and his leaving out the “St.” in front of their names is either a conscious or unconscious recognition of that. As far as lasting damage, I don’t know how much damage there was for him to do by the time he arrived on the scene. The liturgy had already been abolished and replaced with one that destroys the faith. The house had already been burned beyond recognition, but was still standing with charred, rotten, and disfigured wooden walls. Jorge came through with a bulldozer to take down what was already destroyed. I’m not sure that you can call that damage. He certainly made it clear what the novus ordo leads to: him. Maybe that’s actually better. Because would-be moderates may have been won over to our cause. Maybe this will lead to the nullification of Vatican II and of the reassessment of all of the post V2 canonizations, done according to the new rules.

RevolveBooks · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2020, 08:32:11 AM »

Why does Ab Vigano refer to the Pope as Bergoglio? Should we infer something from that? Does he refer to the previous Pontiff as Ratzinger or Benedict? I'm wondering about this.

Ascetik · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2020, 08:47:48 AM »

Quote from: songbird on October 05, 2020, 07:51:45 PM

So, Vigano, speaks of all the horrible scandals in the church. Well, where was he when all these scandals took place? He was not a part of the picture? What was his solution for all the hurt and pain to so many victims? Speaking now is too late!

Guess you're not a fan of Catholic forgiveness? A Catholic of all people should know that people can change when they begin cooperating with God's grace. If God can forgive, why can't you?
At least he's doing something!

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2020, 09:26:40 AM »

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Guess you're not a fan of Catholic forgiveness? A Catholic of all people should know that people can change when they begin cooperating with God's grace. If God can forgive, why can't you?

Right. Let's not forget St Dismas, whom Christ forgave after a horrible life. We're all guilty.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2020, 10:26:44 AM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 06, 2020, 09:26:40 AM

Right. Let's not forget St Dismas, whom Christ forgave after a horrible life. We're all guilty.

Yup.

Suggested reading for those critical of Viganò’s late conversion:

1) “The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.”

2) The parable of the vineyard workers (with the workers hired at the 11th hour making the same wage as those hired at the first hour).

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2020, 10:46:09 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 06, 2020, 10:26:44 AM

Yup.

Suggested reading for those critical of Viganò’s late conversion:

1) “The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.”

2) The parable of the vineyard workers (with the workers hired at the 11th hour making the same wage as those hired at the first hour).

This!

My only sticking point is that a conversion be *real*. For example, when St. Dismas converted, he didn't continue to steal.

A person converting to Tradition would CERTAINLY stop calling existing Trads "extremists", "rebels", "right wing extremists", etc.

After all, they just joined the group known as "Tradition", right? So why would they attack it? And they wouldn't attack its leaders, pioneers, and heroes, such as Bishop Williamson or Archbishop Lefebvre. In fact, a real Trad would defend and not attack these men.

But other than that, yes, any convert is welcome!
Welcome to the fight!

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2020, 11:15:28 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on October 06, 2020, 10:46:09 AM

This!

My only sticking point is that a conversion be *real*. For example, when St. Dismas converted, he didn't continue to steal.

A person converting to Tradition would CERTAINLY stop calling existing Trads "extremists", "rebels", "right wing extremists", etc.

After all, they just joined the group known as "Tradition", right? So why would they attack it? And they wouldn't attack its leaders, pioneers, and heroes, such as Bishop Williamson or Archbishop Lefebvre. In fact, a real Trad would defend and not attack these men.

But other than that, yes, any convert is welcome!
Welcome to the fight!

Right, many of us our not cradle Traditional Catholics but spent some time in the NO.

ByzCat3000 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2020, 12:33:48 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on October 06, 2020, 10:46:09 AM

This!

My only sticking point is that a conversion be *real*. For example, when St. Dismas converted, he didn't continue to steal.

A person converting to Tradition would CERTAINLY stop calling existing Trads "extremists", "rebels", "right wing extremists", etc.

After all, they just joined the group known as "Tradition", right? So why would they attack it? And they wouldn't attack its leaders, pioneers, and heroes, such as Bishop Williamson or Archbishop Lefebvre. In fact, a real Trad would defend and not attack these men.

But other than that, yes, any convert is welcome!
Welcome to the fight!

Archbishop Vigano hasn't done anything like that though has he?

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