Modernism is the synthesis of all heresy. It is the idea that dogmas can evolve and be understood in a different meaning over time. This is heresy. If a person holds to heresy they are outside the Church. You can be a pagan and believe in God. Catholics believe in God, but that is not the minimum one must believe to be a Catholic.
Thank you Centroamerica. I have found the link and it was also recommended by Nihil Obstate....(spelling)...not too good at pre-vatican II terms
I am not sure that the conciliar church is saying that dogma can evolve or be understood in different meaning over time...then it wouldn't be dogma, right? I think what we are understanding on our side of the aisle is that the human experience changes, our society is learning more and we are applying what can be brought into service of a greater understanding of dogma. So how a dogma was explained 200 years ago will not be the way it is explained today. No one - even on the Traditional Catholic time is talking about going backwards in time but rather anchoring 2014 solidly in what our church has always taught...and because I believe that human experience not just tradition and history need to be used in interpreting and understanding revelation , you and I may not come up with exactly the same perspectives. But no one is saying that dogmas can evolve and meaning is changing over time.. what is changing is our understanding based on the inclusion of many more voices and emerging science ....
Could you come up with an example of how the conciliar church is evolving dogma? As a pagan (and because I am indigenous i am not sure if you are calling me pagan) yes I can believe in God, but even today the concilar church teaches us that the church can bring us the fullness of faith, do you believe that is an evolved understanding of the same dogma you just proposed?
Belief is a starting point; nourishment and growth within a relationship are another part of that truth.
Anyways, I liked your thoughts so I hope you continue to think with me on this on...take care for now.