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Author Topic: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse  (Read 46195 times)

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2020, 07:34:28 PM »
These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs have infiltrated many organizations.  Their existence within the SSPX does nothing to de-legitimize Traditional Catholicism any more than their existence within the Catholic Church in general de-legitimize what the Church stands for.

"These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs" are one thing. Those who are covering things up while not necessarily being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs themselves are another.


But Voris is trying to leverage this into an attack on the entire Traditional Catholic movement.

These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs have infiltrated many organizations.  Their existence within the SSPX does nothing to de-legitimize Traditional Catholicism any more than their existence within the Catholic Church in general de-legitimize what the Church stands for.

This quote seems to sum up this whole thread. Fear, fear, fear, that that fαɢɢօt Voris could tear down "the entire Traditional Catholic movement". Fear, that the SSPX might go bankrupt and give up.

Who do you all believe in?

Start to fear God, fear God, and fear God. Stop fearing sensationalist fαɢɢօt media. The SSPX will go bankrupt if God wills it. Stop believing in the SSPX as a necessary means for salvation. Start willing truth and justice first, and second, and third. God saves all those he wants to save. And pray that if the SSPX hosts ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ ( = pederast) networks like Ladislaus believes, that God hopefully destroys it.



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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2020, 08:07:40 PM »
"These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs" are one thing. Those who are covering things up while not necessarily being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs themselves are another.

Well, those who cover things up may themselves be ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, part of a network.


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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2020, 08:12:33 PM »
This quote seems to sum up this whole thread. Fear, fear, fear, that that fαɢɢօt Voris could tear down "the entire Traditional Catholic movement". Fear, that the SSPX might go bankrupt and give up.

Who do you all believe in?

You appear to be putting words in my mouth.  I never said that Voris could tear down the entire movement; I simply said that he is using it to attack the Traditional movement in general, as a whole.  We could cite the wisdom of Gamliel.  

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And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.

To the extent that the SSPX is doing the work of God, no human power can bring it down, much less a Michael Voris.

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2020, 08:16:19 PM »
It’s one thing to compile solid evidence that a man has committed a crime. It’s quite another to accuse a broad group of men, and by strong implication, an entire priestly society, of being guilty, by act and by concealment, of awful crimes. 

There may be a lot of people here who are disappointed at the SSPX leadership’s lack of courage in the face of modernist Rome’s attempts to soften their opposition, but few of us believe the whole society is a vile den of perverts and sodomites, which is exactly what CM’s piece insinuates. 

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2020, 08:27:28 PM »
You appear to be putting words in my mouth.  I never said that Voris could tear down the entire movement; I simply said that he is using it to attack the Traditional movement in general, as a whole.

You said: "But Voris is trying to leverage this into an attack on the entire Traditional Catholic movement."

And this whole thread is about attacking Voris as if the SSPX looked better if Voris alone was more fαɢɢօt than possibly all cases in the SSPX summed up.

Your contribution is mainly: "I actually do believe that there has been an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network within the SSPX.  Those who are part of it will in fact cover up for each other.  That is the very nature and purpose of their network."