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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #150 on: April 25, 2020, 02:26:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Struthio on April 25, 2020, 12:23:26 PM
    I wouldn't call anyone a "thinking man", who is sending his daughter to confession to a priest of a trad group which covers up abuse of the confessional. Right now they have admitted coverup by stating that they now pretend to move "Toward transparency".


    Why don't you comment on abuse of the confessional and stay with your bikini clad girl chasing comparison?
    Because first there is no abuse of the confessional. You are acting like an irrational hysteric, now even saying that you would not send your daughter to any SSPX priest for confession. I have a ton of daughters and I would have no problem sending them to confession with an SSPX priest. Like I said before, if my daughters ever got shady advice from anyone, they would come to me to talk about it. Everyone in my family and everyone in the world around me is constantly giving bad example and bad advice to my children, if it was not that my wife and I are on top of things, all of my children would have lost the faith by now and become like all of my relatives. If you do not want to go to confession with SSPX priests be my guest, it just makes the confession line shorter for the rest of us.
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    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #151 on: April 25, 2020, 02:41:04 PM »
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    • Sam is backing Voris, but the homo-boy has no Catholic credibility.


         Doing a jig in his papal slippers
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #152 on: April 25, 2020, 02:48:41 PM »
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    • Perhaps Sam IS Voris ... or someone with ties to him or to CM?
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #153 on: April 25, 2020, 02:50:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 25, 2020, 02:41:04 PM

    Sam is backing Voris, but the homo-boy has no Catholic credibility.


        Doing a jig in his papal slippers
    Mocking me and mocking Voris for reporting on the abuse coverup is essentially mocking the victims of the predator priests. A lame "shoot-the-messenger" because you don't like the message kind of reaction. 

    Well done.

    If you agree with the SSPX's handling of the abuse within their ranks, you haven't an ounce of credibility.
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #154 on: April 25, 2020, 02:55:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 25, 2020, 02:48:41 PM
    Perhaps Sam IS Voris ... or someone with ties to him or to CM?
    And just like that...

    Ladislaus and Incredulous went from being Resistance supporters back to being SSPX supporters!
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #155 on: April 25, 2020, 02:56:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: BeatusRusticus on April 24, 2020, 08:16:22 PM
    My sister asked a couple of her friends, ladies in the Sanford, FL parish what they thought of Fr. Duverger and all this. Both mothers of kids. Both essentially said “If Fr. Vernoy trusts him to run the school, that’s good enough for me.” One of them who has family in St. Mary’s, volunteered that Jassy Jacas was, in her words, “a troublemaker.” So, without wanting to blame the victim, it’s just possible that there are ulterior motives or an axe to grind. Something we should bear in mind.
    To add to the above, I have a best friend who goes to the Sanford Chapel, he told me:

    That they were told that Fr. Duverger was sent to Florida to take it easy after his open heart surgery, that he was transferred to Florida for health reasons. While he was there, Fr. Vernoy assigned him to be the Principle of the "school" because he is an excellent organizer.  I say "school" because it only has 30 students K-8. The school has been in place for like 8 years and has always been under 30 students. Up to the time that  Fr. Duverger took charge, the school seemed to be treated as an unavoidable bother. Since he took over, the school and the children are the priority of the entire Sanford Priory. He is now almost finished building a public park class playset for the children, where before all they hadwas  a used tetherball pole in a cemented tire. Prior to his arrival they had chickens cramped into a filthy Siberia class "coop", and the first thing he did upon his arrival was to build a mansion coop, ridiculously overbuilt. The man is a dynamo, and considering he is doing this while he is recovering from open heart surgery, makes it even more amazing.

    Anyone that leaves the chapel in Sanford because of this Jassy Voris garbage, was just a fair weather "friend". Good riddance!
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #156 on: April 25, 2020, 03:03:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sam Smith on April 25, 2020, 02:50:35 PM
    Mocking me and mocking Voris for reporting on the abuse coverup is essentially mocking the victims of the predator priests. A lame "shoot-the-messenger" because you don't like the message kind of reaction.

    Well done.

    If you agree with the SSPX's handling of the abuse within their ranks, you haven't an ounce of credibility.

    Sam,

    If you read through this topic, you'd see where I never supported the SSPX's management of their various sex scandals.

    But Voris is a big time judaizer.  He get's paid for his promotions of the h0Ɩ0h0αx, Opus Judei and the Noahide laws.

    This pseudo-Catholic messenger is totally artificial. 

    Yet, you ignore what he represents and run to the front of the riot to lynch the SSPX ?

    Can Mikey and the Church Militant give you the Sacraments?

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #157 on: April 25, 2020, 03:11:13 PM »
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    • Jassy is clearly overreacting. “Oh my gosh! Think of the children!” Classic argument of SJW types who are intimidated by something. What is Father supposed to do to humor her? Ship Fr. Duverger off to Africa? Oh wait, that’s just moving the problem. Ship him to a religious prison? Probably. And that’s exactly what Fr. Wegner and James Vogel were discussing in their emails. You want to apologize for any offense, make the girl happy, and you certainly don’t want her to raise a media storm (as is happening now) but when what she asks is basically impossible or, in your mind, unjust, what to do? 

    If Jassy said “he asked me to take off my clothes” or “he asked me to send him photos” or “he asked me to meet him in his apartment” it would be one thing. But as it is, there’s absolutely nothing here that’s clearly wrong, let alone criminal. 
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    Offline Jaynek

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #158 on: April 25, 2020, 03:47:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sam Smith on April 25, 2020, 02:55:21 PM
    And just like that...

    Ladislaus and Incredulous went from being Resistance supporters back to being SSPX supporters!

    Consider the possibility that they are truth supporters.  They attack the SSPX for things it actually does wrong, but do not just blindly attack it in a situation where accusations are coming from a non-credible source.  They want to weigh the evidence in a just manner.  

    It is rather insulting to the Resistance to act as if it would attack the SSPX even when unwarranted.
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #159 on: April 25, 2020, 03:50:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 25, 2020, 03:03:30 PM

    Can Mikey and the Church Militant give you the Sacraments?
    No, but the Resistance can.

    Sadly, even the Resistance is exposed in the reporting for their own predator/coverup misdeeds. 

    The (only) thing the SSPX got right in their second statement is this:

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    The scourge of sɛҳuąƖ abuse must be driven from the Catholic Church, including the SSPX’s apostolate.
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #160 on: April 25, 2020, 03:52:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on April 25, 2020, 03:47:05 PM

    It is rather insulting to the Resistance to act as if it would attack the SSPX even when unwarranted.
    So you feel the reporting on the SSPX is unwarranted? You feel it is unfair? You feel the SSPX has engaged in no coverup? No failure to report? No movement of priests to conceal?

    Interesting.
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #161 on: April 25, 2020, 03:58:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sam Smith on April 25, 2020, 03:52:48 PM
    So you feel the reporting on the SSPX is unwarranted? You feel it is unfair? You feel the SSPX has engaged in no coverup? No failure to report? No movement of priests to conceal?

    Interesting.

    I think that taking anything coming from Michael Voris at face value is unwarranted. Figuring out what is actually true in Church Militant's obvious hit piece will take some thought and research. 
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #162 on: April 25, 2020, 04:24:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on April 25, 2020, 03:58:54 PM
    I think that taking anything coming from Michael Voris at face value is unwarranted. Figuring out what is actually true in Church Militant's obvious hit piece will take some thought and research.

    THIS^^^.  There's some accurate information in there, but it's buried in a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations and insinuations clearly motivated by a disdain for Traditional Catholicism which they cannot help but scatter throughout the obvious hit-piece.
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #163 on: April 25, 2020, 04:28:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on April 25, 2020, 03:58:54 PM
    I think that taking anything coming from Michael Voris at face value is unwarranted. Figuring out what is actually true in Church Militant's obvious hit piece will take some thought and research.
    Well, you go do that, I expect your full report later.

    As Voris said in his interview last night, "Handcuffs and courtrooms have a tendency to wake people up. I hope you see the light!"

    From 1:09:35:


    https://youtu.be/MXWsT1uRlHw?t=4175


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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #164 on: April 25, 2020, 04:32:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on April 25, 2020, 03:58:54 PM
    I think that taking anything coming from Michael Voris at face value is unwarranted. Figuring out what is actually true in Church Militant's obvious hit piece will take some thought and research.
    Everybody already knows Voris's bias. He plainly states the SSPX is in schism. His personal opinion on the canonical status of the SSPX does not change his reporting of the facts.

    Even Michael Matt plainly states he doesn't support the SSPX because he views the 1988 consecrations as illicit.

    Did that make you stop reading The Remnant?
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