Hey guys, I just talked to two women who live in Saint Marys, today.
They were living here when Michael Gonzalez was shot by gang members,
who belonged to the gang that he was in.  They were doing drugs.
They showed up at Michael's house and he got in a car with them and
they drove to Topeka and shot him.  

How do these two women know that said gang members shot Gonzalez in Topeka?

Send the testimony to Menzingen!  https://fsspx.org/en/get-contact-us-7252

How do these two women know that said gang members shot Gonzalez in Topeka?
Send the testimony to Menzingen!  https://fsspx.org/en/get-contact-us-7252

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Maybe I can get the police report.  Do you want to see the police report?
Do you want to hold Michael Voris accountable if he is lying ? 
Do you need for me to tell you his other lies ?
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Where do you go to Mass ? 
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OK, I just watched the full Jasy video and have come to the conclusion that her allegations are garbage.  And the greatest, most salacious detail that cannot really be explained in a way that does not entail some kind of impure motivation is the one from the OTHER accuser that she repeats second hand, whose own family doubts her credibility because they consider her unhinged.  I see no evidence of actual assault, and in the case of Jasy, no evidence that he was "grooming" her for anything.  In fact, quite the contrary.  I could write up a 45-minute discourse shredding her account.  She keeps making insinuations that Fr. D would be a threat to children without any evidence, keeps referring to what happened to her as some kind of sɛҳuąƖ assault when there's nothing to back that up.  I'm sorry, but this woman is full of it.  Perhaps she was abused when younger and tends to see abuse everywhere.  Unless there's some other testimony to back this up, by itself this doesn't stand.  If I have time, I'll go through it a minute at a time to rip holes in it.  My apologize to Father D that I treated this thing as credible.  And the kicker that gives it away was her claim at the end that had Father Wegner said an investigation was done and nothing was found, she would have accepted that.  This indicates that she herself doesn't believe that there were unambiguous sɛҳuąƖ intentions behind what Father D had said and done or that Fr. D was a threat to anyone.

Interestingly enough, according to Google, Peter Palmeri achieved a plea bargain of two counts of “aggravated indecent liberties with a child,” whatever that may be. Most charges appear to have been dropped shortly after his arrest due to the statute of limitations having expired. He was supposed to be sentenced 4th February of this year, but I can’t find any article reporting on if this happened, or the extent of his punishment. So we may never know from court just what he did, or if he was guilty.


My sister asked a couple of her friends, ladies in the Sanford, FL parish what they thought of Fr. Duverger and all this. Both mothers of kids. Both essentially said “If Fr. Vernoy trusts him to run the school, that’s good enough for me.” One of them who has family in St. Mary’s, volunteered that Jassy Jacas was, in her words, “a troublemaker.” So, without wanting to blame the victim, it’s just possible that there are ulterior motives or an axe to grind. Something we should bear in mind.

It would appear that posters here on CI are doing more real investigative reporting that the garbage Voris hit piece ever bothered to do.

Hey guys, I just talked to two women who live in Saint Marys, today.
They were living here when Michael Gonzalez was shot by gang members,
who belonged to the gang that he was in.  They were doing drugs.
They showed up at Michael's house and he got in a car with them and
they drove to Topeka and shot him.  
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His wife had left him.  His sister was about waist high (perhaps 9 years old)
at that time.
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Last but not least, Fr. Ramon Angles was NOT even here at that time, but
became the rector here later.  
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Ya-all want the truth and revenge and justice.  Maybe you should get the
facts first.  If what I heard today is  true, then maybe you should consider
suing Michael Voris for libel and several other things.
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Better be careful, who you make assumptions about.  Things can look
credible when you only have one side of the story.  And considering the
known LIAR that Michael Voris is, don't bet much money on his story.

Thanks for showing everyone you didn't watch the video.

Michael Gonzalez's sister, Theresa, describes how he killed himself while on the phone with her in front of his roommates. He also left a ѕυιcιdє note.

The facts laid out against Fr. Angles in the video include: a priest (Fr. Rizzo), a parent of a student who received a love letter from Angles, a teacher at the school who was fired for reporting Angles to the police, students who were invited to Angles' office to watch weird Hitler movies, and a dead body (Gonzalez).

You pollute this thread with your complete fabrications and you besmirch a victim of child sex abuse who is DEAD. That's vile and shameful.

You are dismissed from this discussion.

Wondering, Sam Smith, since you are so new here, if you (are in any way at all) affiliated with Church Militant? I don't think you answered when I asked earlier. Thanks.

I missed your question. No, I don't have any affiliation with CM and I don't even follow their work closely, but this one is a bombshell that went instantly viral. I'm not a fan of Voris for the usual reasons, but I think it is good that CM reports on predators in all groups in the Church. Actually, it is a shame that CM didn't do this report in 2017 when the Swedish film came out. That film was a much more timid version of this report, but this report has many more predators identified. 

I'm sorry I cannot respond.  I have been dismissed from this discussion
by Sam Smith or Samantha Smith.  Could be either one until he/she
decides to let us know which gender is on the birth certificate.

Did you send the testimony of the two women to Menzingen? Or did you make it up, thinking that your purpose justifies your means?

Did you send the testimony of the two women to Menzingen? Or did you make it up, thinking that your purpose justifies your means?

I did not make it up.  I'm just the messenger who heard
testimony from two women.  Not court testimony, though.
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I have been looking for a police report or death report, but
have not been able to find any yet. 
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I don't want to send anything to Menzingen, until I get some
more information, hopefully, something more official. 
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So until then, my report seems to be hearsay.