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Offline hollingsworth

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #285 on: May 31, 2020, 09:34:16 AM »
I haven't posted on on CI for well over a year or longer. But I couldn't resists on this Voris issue.  The following quote pretty well sums it up:


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Does the Society have a lot of explaining to do? Oh yeah.
Are many parts of Church Militant's report concerning? You bet.
Has the Society's response thus far appeared unconvincing? You could argue so.
Should we, with reckless abandon, join with Voris in shredding the Society before they've had the chance to respond? Nope
.I don't join Voris "with reckless abandon.  Whatever his motives, Voris and Christine Niles report the truth about the situation.  Nothing they report has been effectively refuted on this site.   It is all too true.  The SSPX is DOA.  Some of us saw this years ago.  The good bishop should perhaps abandon warnings about the Society on the brink of returning to Rome.  He might be advised to recognize the fact that SSPX has become Rome.  It is not a Romeward trend.  This trad outfit has already, for many years, been virtually a part of Rome.
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Offline Meg

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #286 on: May 31, 2020, 09:57:44 AM »
Quote from: hollingsworth on May 31, 2020, 09:34:16 AM
I haven't posted on on CI for well over a year or longer. But I couldn't resists on this Voris issue.  The following quote pretty well sums it up:

.I don't join Voris "with reckless abandon.  Whatever his motives, Voris and Christine Niles report the truth about the situation.  Nothing they report has been effectively refuted on this site.   It is all too true.  The SSPX is DOA.  Some of us saw this years ago.  The good bishop should perhaps abandon warnings about the Society on the brink of returning to Rome.  He might be advised to recognize the fact that SSPX has become Rome.  It is not a Romeward trend.  This trad outfit has already, for many years, been virtually a part of Rome.

Regarding your assertion above that nothing from Voris or Niles has been effectively refuted, I'd say that Voris' charges against Fr. Novak have been refuted here. Maybe not as effectively as you'd like.
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Offline Prayerful

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #287 on: May 31, 2020, 10:58:09 AM »
Voris' go to 'victim' is Jassy Jacas in whom law enforcement could place no credibility. This exposé seems to draw from, or draws from the same source as a Swedish docuмentary which made a great of unsupported calumnies against Resistance priests. I suspect after this pan cake flat stuff has been eaten, there will be a few meager bits served up.

Fr Jenkins SSPV remarks on the matter covers what he sees as an attitude among the SSPX and problems created by 'partial communion':



 
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Offline Meg

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #288 on: May 31, 2020, 12:12:07 PM »
Quote from: Prayerful on May 31, 2020, 10:58:09 AM
Voris' go to 'victim' is Jassy Jacas in whom law enforcement could place no credibility. This exposé seems to draw from, or draws from the same source as a Swedish docuмentary which made a great of unsupported calumnies against Resistance priests. I suspect after this pan cake flat stuff has been eaten, there will be a few meager bits served up.

Fr Jenkins SSPV remarks on the matter covers what he sees as an attitude among the SSPX and problems created by 'partial communion':



 

I can't believe I'm saying this about the SSPV, but Fr. Jenkins gives the best assessment of the SSPX/Voris issue that I've seen thus far. He brings up many thought-provoking ideas, and he's respectful of all parties, but truthful and realistic at the same time.

Good assessment, too, about the Coronavirus problem, in the 2nd half of the talk.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #289 on: May 31, 2020, 02:43:43 PM »
Quote from: Prayerful on May 31, 2020, 10:58:09 AM
Fr Jenkins SSPV remarks on the matter covers what he sees as an attitude among the SSPX and problems created by 'partial communion':

Very incisive comments, as usual, from Fr. Jenkins.  He speculates that, if there is in fact a greater tolerance for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the SSPX, it could derive from the general softening of the SSPX on Modernism in general, and therefore becoming more tolerant of sin and evil as a result.  So the opposite of how Voris and Niles spun it.
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