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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2020, 02:43:40 PM »
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apollo says:
Hey, Michael, where is your video about all the perverts in Rome ?

He has made such videos. Here's one:




Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2020, 02:47:13 PM »
 
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apollo says:
 Hey, Michael, where is your video about all the perverts in Rome ?


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me: He has made such videos. Here's one:


Video above is the wrong video but it sort of covers that issue. Here's the one I meant to post:



Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2020, 02:49:16 PM »
No fan of Michael Voris, but this particular article was not written by him.

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2020, 03:21:39 PM »
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Ladislaus says:

Whether or not he truly repented ...

1) can truly be known only by God in the internal forum

AND

2) is totally beside the point.

A) Would you ordain Voris to the priesthood just because he publicly claimed to have repented?

B)We do not know the sincerity of it. Could he have made the statement as damage control for his business venture because the information was on the verge of leaking out?

C) [...] the Church has always had great caution when it came to anyone who had ever practiced sins against nature ... even if all signs point to their having repented.

This response is littered with so many logical fallacies.

A) Red herring fallacy

B) It's not for you to judge, if the man publicly abjured his sins. We have to take it on faith that he's sincere, just as we take it on faith that a priest's intentions to validly confer the Sacraments sincere and not sabotaged in any way. Only God truly knows. Indeed, prudence must be made when interacting with former sodomites, including not allowing children around them, but to judge them as active guilty sodomites or insincere in their contrition is wrong, and the Lord God will judge you for it.

C) Caution to former sodomites who work in the Church's ministry and/or in teaching/leadership positions over children or young adults, but not nearly on the same level with those who hold regular layman jobs with no supervision over children or mentally/emotionally susceptible and easily manipulated people.

Catholics should appreciate Voris publicly abjuring, and going to confession for, committing perversions against nature. He can be a voice of inspiration and reason to other fαɢɢօts who might have a moment of clarity and listen to him because he formerly lived their perverted lifestyle. That's a lot better than creeping around little boys and scandalizing them, or going to male bath houses to continue that disgusting vice.

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2020, 04:24:50 PM »
Video above is the wrong video but it sort of covers that issue. Here's the one I meant to post:
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This video is about Bishops in the US if favor of socialism and also
bishops in the US who are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  It's not about perverts in Rome,
which is what I said.
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Michael Voris has no problem with Vatican II, therefore he is a heretic.
He is also a liar.  Therefore, you cannot trust what he says about the
situation in Saint Marys.  
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He appears to hate the SSPX. He claims that Archbishop Lefebvre
excuмunicated himself.  That is a lie and he knows it.