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Offline Struthio

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2020, 07:34:28 PM »
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  • These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs have infiltrated many organizations.  Their existence within the SSPX does nothing to de-legitimize Traditional Catholicism any more than their existence within the Catholic Church in general de-legitimize what the Church stands for.

    "These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs" are one thing. Those who are covering things up while not necessarily being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs themselves are another.


    But Voris is trying to leverage this into an attack on the entire Traditional Catholic movement.

    These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs have infiltrated many organizations.  Their existence within the SSPX does nothing to de-legitimize Traditional Catholicism any more than their existence within the Catholic Church in general de-legitimize what the Church stands for.

    This quote seems to sum up this whole thread. Fear, fear, fear, that that fαɢɢօt Voris could tear down "the entire Traditional Catholic movement". Fear, that the SSPX might go bankrupt and give up.

    Who do you all believe in?

    Start to fear God, fear God, and fear God. Stop fearing sensationalist fαɢɢօt media. The SSPX will go bankrupt if God wills it. Stop believing in the SSPX as a necessary means for salvation. Start willing truth and justice first, and second, and third. God saves all those he wants to save. And pray that if the SSPX hosts ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ ( = pederast) networks like Ladislaus believes, that God hopefully destroys it.



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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #241 on: April 27, 2020, 08:07:40 PM »
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  • "These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs" are one thing. Those who are covering things up while not necessarily being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs themselves are another.

    Well, those who cover things up may themselves be ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, part of a network.


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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #242 on: April 27, 2020, 08:12:33 PM »
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  • This quote seems to sum up this whole thread. Fear, fear, fear, that that fαɢɢօt Voris could tear down "the entire Traditional Catholic movement". Fear, that the SSPX might go bankrupt and give up.

    Who do you all believe in?

    You appear to be putting words in my mouth.  I never said that Voris could tear down the entire movement; I simply said that he is using it to attack the Traditional movement in general, as a whole.  We could cite the wisdom of Gamliel.  

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    And now, therefore, I say to you, refrain from these men, and let them alone; for if this council or this work be of men, it will come to nought; But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God.

    To the extent that the SSPX is doing the work of God, no human power can bring it down, much less a Michael Voris.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #243 on: April 27, 2020, 08:16:19 PM »
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  • It’s one thing to compile solid evidence that a man has committed a crime. It’s quite another to accuse a broad group of men, and by strong implication, an entire priestly society, of being guilty, by act and by concealment, of awful crimes. 

    There may be a lot of people here who are disappointed at the SSPX leadership’s lack of courage in the face of modernist Rome’s attempts to soften their opposition, but few of us believe the whole society is a vile den of perverts and sodomites, which is exactly what CM’s piece insinuates. 

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #244 on: April 27, 2020, 08:27:28 PM »
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  • You appear to be putting words in my mouth.  I never said that Voris could tear down the entire movement; I simply said that he is using it to attack the Traditional movement in general, as a whole.

    You said: "But Voris is trying to leverage this into an attack on the entire Traditional Catholic movement."

    And this whole thread is about attacking Voris as if the SSPX looked better if Voris alone was more fαɢɢօt than possibly all cases in the SSPX summed up.

    Your contribution is mainly: "I actually do believe that there has been an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network within the SSPX.  Those who are part of it will in fact cover up for each other.  That is the very nature and purpose of their network."


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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #245 on: April 27, 2020, 08:29:24 PM »
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  • A confessed fαɢɢօt with a wig and dressed up like a fαɢɢօt is less a problem than a network of fαɢɢօts controlling confessionals.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #246 on: April 27, 2020, 08:37:17 PM »
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  • A fαɢɢօt with a wig and dressed up like a fαɢɢօt is less a problem than a network of fαɢɢօts controlling confessionals.

    Voris’s ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past is always a concern.  It’s very hard to trust a man who once betrayed his own nature.


    But a more serious danger to the Traditional Catholic movement is a media man claiming to be Catholic, who endorses the h0Ɩ0h0αx, the тαℓмυdic Noehide laws and is funded by Opus Dei.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #247 on: April 27, 2020, 08:43:12 PM »
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  • Voris’s ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past is always a concern.  It’s very hard to trust a man who once betrayed his own nature.

    But a more serious danger to the Traditional Catholic movement is a man claiming to be Catholic, who endorses the h0Ɩ0h0αx, the тαℓмυdic Noehide laws and is funded by Opus Dei.

    Whom do you defend? The whole SSPX endorses these fables. Seminarians and priests have to listen to soap fables at lunch. There even was a docuмentary about it with impressive footage.


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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #248 on: April 27, 2020, 08:47:35 PM »
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  • I guess I just don't understand why you weren't as upset back then. 
    A lot of people were upset back then. Why wouldn't they be? You think people are happy about the rot being covered up in the SSPX, destroying Abp. LeFebvre's legacy? You think the homo/pedo infiltration is only in the Novus Ordo? I recall people back then dismissing the Swedish film because of the source, (basically the same thing as what is happening to Voris), because Catholics didn't want to believe Swedish journalists since they are liberals or not Catholic. Matt Gaspers of CFN, said he had never even seen the 2017 film when Voris first started reporting on predators in the SSPX last summer. If Gaspers doesn't even watch a film about abuse in the largest Traditional Catholic priestly order, what kind of an editor is he?

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #249 on: April 27, 2020, 08:55:36 PM »
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  • Start to fear God, fear God, and fear God. Stop fearing sensationalist fαɢɢօt media. The SSPX will go bankrupt if God wills it. Stop believing in the SSPX as a necessary means for salvation. Start willing truth and justice first, and second, and third. God saves all those he wants to save. And pray that if the SSPX hosts ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ ( = pederast) networks like Ladislaus believes, that God hopefully destroys it.
    YES!

    And if God wills the SSPX to fall, just think of all the new "Resistance" priests that will be in the world looking for a place to land, freed from the present "gag order" due to their imminent deal with Rome.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #250 on: April 27, 2020, 08:59:16 PM »
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  • And if God wills the SSPX to fall, just think of all the new "Resistance" priests that will be in the world looking for a place to land, freed from the present "gag order" due to their imminent deal with Rome.

    And watch out for new Resistance fαɢɢօt priests.


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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #251 on: April 27, 2020, 09:56:28 PM »
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  • Whom do you defend? The whole SSPX endorses these fables. Seminarians and priests have to listen to soap fables at lunch. There even was a docuмentary about it with impressive footage.
    Tou say the SSPX is teaching the h0Ɩ0h0αx, the Noehide Laws and is friends with Opus Dei?  :popcorn:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #252 on: April 27, 2020, 10:07:12 PM »
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  • Tou say the SSPX is teaching the h0Ɩ0h0αx, the Noehide Laws and is friends with Opus Dei?  :popcorn:

    I was referring to those gassing and soap fables only. But since acordistas are in accord with the modernist Noahide masons including the Scribe Escriba, yes, that's what I say.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #253 on: April 27, 2020, 10:20:24 PM »
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  • And watch out for new Resistance fαɢɢօt priests.
    That too, but I'm hoping the criminal ones will get indicted and be gone.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #254 on: April 28, 2020, 01:29:11 AM »
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  • "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."