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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #190 on: April 26, 2020, 08:54:14 AM »
The same question could be asked regarding Fr. Urrutigoity, which brings Bp. Williamson into the equation.

Agreed.  These are serious questions that DO need to be addressed.  But the legitimate points are actually buried.  That's why I say Voris did a great disservice by burying it in nonsense.  +Williamson's response has been that, in the heat of the sedevacanist vs. R&R battle that was raging at the time, he was persuaded by Urrutigoity that it had been a politically-motivated accusation.

+Lefebvre told Fr. Williamson that Urrutigoity needed to be watched "like a hawk".  But when I was there with him, there was no such watching going on.  Fr. Urrutigoity was a veritable cult leader with a group of 7-8 seminarians with whom he formed a tightly-knit circle.  Both my brother Steve (the one on the cancer prayer thread) and I spoke about how we couldn't figure out what the fascination was with that guy.  Well, now we know.  Both Steve and I could go on for a long time.  Steve's run-in with then-Fr. Urrutigoity was the reason he was let go from the seminary.

There's no doubt that the SSPX BADLY MISHANDLED this case.  None whatsoever.  Now, this was before the whole pederasty scandal blew up years later, and perhaps there was some naivete involved.  We may never know.

Really, the best thing that the SSPX could do as a defense is to acknowledge and ask forgiveness for the incidents that they mishandled.  "In the case of
  • , we acknowledge that the situation was badly mishandled, and we ask forgiveness from God for it."  So admit the wrongdoing in some of those cases, and that will make your defense of the false allegations to be more credible.


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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #191 on: April 26, 2020, 09:03:24 AM »
I actually do believe that there has been an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network within the SSPX.  Those who are part of it will in fact cover up for each other.  That is the very nature and purpose of their network.

But Voris is trying to leverage this into an attack on the entire Traditional Catholic movement.

These ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs have infiltrated many organizations.  Their existence within the SSPX does nothing to de-legitimize Traditional Catholicism any more than their existence within the Catholic Church in general de-legitimize what the Church stands for.

Voris is doing the same thing that all the enemies of the Church are doing.  He's taking this and leveraging it into a broader attack.  Many anti-Catholic Prots are whipped up in a fury about the priestly pedophile scandal and use it as ammunition for why the theological claims of the Catholic Church are false.  Pay no attention to the fact that statistics indicate that the incidence of abuse among Prots and even Rabbis is JUST AS HIGH as among Catholic priests, but the media in focusing on attacking the Church.  And, at the same time, the media attack the Church for being anti-gαy.  So the Church MUST allow ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs into the priesthood, but then is held accountable when these ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs start raping boys.

THIS is my problem with Voris.  He's clearly using this as an attack on Traditional Catholicism IN PRINCIPLE.  That is completely dishonest.

Now, if he wanted to use this as a way to help root out the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs from the SSPX, that would be a great service.  But he's having the opposite effect.

In his interview with Gordon, I could almost detect a glee in Voris' voice and expression regarding the tragic case of Michael Gonzales.  There was almost an undercurrent of, "yes, I got them with this.  This is some ammunition to use against them." ... almost to the point that he comes across as happy that it happened.  It's like he was rubbing his hands together as he spoke of it.


Online Ladislaus

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #192 on: April 26, 2020, 09:13:04 AM »
If I had the luxury of being a full-time "journalist", I would put together a fair and balanced article, getting both sides of the each issue before trying to pain any kind of picture.  And I would do it with the intention not of attacking the SSPX per se or Traditional Catholicism in general, but with the intent of exposing and rooting out the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and other predators within the SSPX.

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« Reply #193 on: April 26, 2020, 09:20:59 AM »
There was the case of Fr. Benedict VanderPutten.  After getting wind of what happened there, the SSPX immediately removed him and reported him to the Vatican, and this was after local authorities had opted not to file charges against him due to lack of evidence.

So there are contrary cases also that Voris remained silent about.

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #194 on: April 26, 2020, 09:30:10 AM »
And Vanderputten is still at large because the SECULAR authorities have not taken action.

As soon as SSPX got wind of the accusations against him, they summoned him to SSPX headquarters, whereupon he was sent to an island monastery, reported to the Vatican, and then expelled from the SSPX.  Secular authorities in California did not go after him.

He tried to weasel his way into Scranton, claiming that he had seen the light about the SSPX schism, but the Vatican sent over the report from the SSPX regarding VanderPutten.

VanderPutten is somewhere in Oklahoma now and is reportedly raising some children, including girls, as a single parent.  You can be darn sure that he's molesting the young girls.  Where are the secular authorities here?  You can be sure he's molesting the girls because when Scranton interviewed him, he justified the behavior and felt there was nothing wrong with it but that he was just trying to "build trust".  He didn't deny what he did but somehow decided it was OK.

https://adamhorowitzlaw.com/tag/benedict-van-der-putten/

Maybe Voris could actually do something good by tracking the guy down and pressuring the authorities there to apprehend him and remove those girls from his custody.  But that would not serve his purposes of attacking SSPX, because here the SSPX acted quite appropriately.