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Offline Sam Smith

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2020, 12:52:46 PM »
Quote from: apollo on April 22, 2020, 12:42:30 PM

Michael Voris is a known liar and omiter of relevant facts
which completely changes his story.  The above video proves
this.  
That video (from 2015) has literally NOTHING to do with today's article.
The facts are what they are, and there are currently multiple criminal investigations now taking place worldwide as a result of the first witness coming forward.
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Offline Tradman

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2020, 12:53:21 PM »
Quote from: GGMoreno on April 22, 2020, 12:36:57 PM
I don't disagree with what you said, but I do think in order to put all of this in the right context, even the FSSP has skeletons, which Voris chooses not to address.
And it goes without saying, even in Novus Ordo land, there are good priests mixed with bad and both might be under a bad ordinary. If Novus Ordo adherents are able to accept this, they should be able to discern when it comes to traditionalist groups too.
Agreed. When people are afraid of their priests because we laity have access to so much information, but clarity and punishment by the Church hierarchy is weak or criminally lacking, no matter who the group, we need to repeat ourselves until we're blue in the face, that our clergy better get their act together because we're watching.  And because this kind of abuse is so bad, we're discussing it to protect ourselves and others.  I'm not suggesting we dictate solutions to any of our Catholic authorities, but we should assist the ones who care at all, to understand that they are complicit in the destruction of the Church unless they fix this.  
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Offline Sam Smith

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2020, 12:54:20 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 22, 2020, 11:58:18 AM
I read the entire article, every word. I did not judge any of the persons in the article.  I stated facts which apply to all predators, my advice is for parents. It applies to parents who take their children to the Novus Ordo, ICK, FSP, Sedes chapels, SSPX, Eastern Catholic......
I completely agree. Parents should never leave their kids alone with any priest of any group, NO or otherwise.
The fact that her abuse started in the confessional is alarming.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2020, 01:19:40 PM »
Quote from: Sam Smith on April 22, 2020, 12:54:20 PM
I completely agree. Parents should never leave their kids alone with any priest of any group, NO or otherwise.
The fact that her abuse started in the confessional is alarming.

It is no surprise to me, for it is the perfect private one on one place to work the seduction of anyone. That is why I said:


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These priestly abuses could only happen to parents who pay no attention to their children, and who are naïve, lax, idolizers of priests. Those predators knew exactly who to pick on. They picked the children with lax parents. That is how all predators work, seeking the weak.

My children would come to me within minutes of even getting the slightest evil hint from anyone, even if it was my own brother (which would never happen).


The seduction could be of ones wife, daughters, sons, and even husbands. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2020, 01:42:55 PM »
Quote from: VO2 Max on April 22, 2020, 11:34:31 AM
Voris has publicly abjured his fαɢɢօty past. We can infer that he repented of those disguting sins. You're judging the man for sins to which he confessed and did penance. I respect Voris a lot more than the closeted sodomite on this forum who won't even admit that he defended sodomy in the anonymous forum right after he joined here in 2014, and thus was busted for it by an astute member right after he posted the comment. He blamed his cousin for discovering his password and logging into the forum.


The first act of true contrition is to admit wrongdoing.

Whether or not he truly repented ...

1) can truly be known only by God in the internal forum

AND

2) is totally beside the point.

Would you ordain Voris to the priesthood just because he publicly claimed to have repented?  We do not know the sincerity of it.  Could he have made the statement as damage control for his business venture because the information was on the verge of leaking out?  Does he still have the inclinations and could he be, in a moment of weakness, susceptible to returning to his former ways?  Of course.  While that's true of everyone, the Church has always had great caution when it came to anyone who had ever practiced sins against nature ... even if all signs point to their having repented.
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