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Offline Tradman

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Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
« on: April 22, 2020, 10:43:21 AM »
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #1 on: April 22, 2020, 11:03:19 AM »
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    • You’re using articles from a man who hates ALL real Traditionalists to attack the Society. Pathetic
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #2 on: April 22, 2020, 11:04:58 AM »
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    • Voris refuses to engage in any debate on the Society and he is shilling for what his largest donor wants ChurchMilitant to do and publish. He should not be taken seriously.

    He should be putting pressure on bishops and priests to re-open their Churches to the faithful, instead he's writing stupid hit pieces against the SSPX which has no spiritual benefit whatsoever.
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #3 on: April 22, 2020, 11:07:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ascetik on April 22, 2020, 11:04:58 AM
    Voris refuses to engage in any debate on the Society and he is shilling for what his largest donor wants ChurchMilitant to do and publish. He should not be taken seriously.

    He should be putting pressure on bishops and priests to re-open their Churches to the faithful, instead he's writing stupid hit pieces against the SSPX which has no spiritual benefit whatsoever.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #4 on: April 22, 2020, 11:23:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on April 22, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/spotlight-sympathetic-to-perverts?

    Well, Voris could have found a home there with the SSPX.  He was one of these said "preverts" and refuses to take the beam out of his own eye.
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #5 on: April 22, 2020, 11:27:42 AM »
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    • This explains why Fr. Novak is not here anymore, however what this article does not tell the readers is the why he would tell one spouse to leave the other. Knowing Fr. Novak as I do, he would not tell one spouse to leave the other unless it was for the moral or physical safety. I have know him to be criticized but the critics are always the liberal, worldly, immodest, lax Catholics in name-only type.

    If the son was roughed up, then  that bot must have deserved it. And what is considered "roughed up"?

    Who are these accusers? How faithful are they to Catholic Tradition?

    As for the other priests, there may or may not be truth to some of the stories. Some may be true and other exaggerations.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #6 on: April 22, 2020, 11:32:08 AM »
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    • The fit hits the shan.

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #7 on: April 22, 2020, 11:35:40 AM »
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    • I'm not one to defend the Society in terms of scandals, but I'm sure if Voris looked closely, he would find a few in the FSSP or ICKSP. I only wish my memory served me right so I could start rattling them off the top of my head. 
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2020, 11:45:28 AM »
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    • These priestly abuses could only happen to parents who pay no attention to their children, and who are naïve, lax, idolizers of priests. Those predators knew exactly who to pick on. They picked the children with lax parents. That is how all predators work, seeking the weak.

    My children would come to me within minutes of even getting the slightest evil hint from anyone, even if it was my own brother (which would never happen). I would then take action, action which is very dangerous for my life and soul, for these things never end well.  I always pray to God to remove people like that from my path, and He has always done so.

    ….And leads us not into temptation.
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 11:52:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 22, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
    These priestly abuses could only happen to parents who pay no attention to their children, parents who are naïve, lax, and idolizers of priests. Those predators knew exactly who to pick on. They picked the children with lax parents. That is how all predators work, seeking the weak.
    The Bottom Line that I get from the OP article is: pay attention your children and do not idolize priests as if they are gods.
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    Offline Sam Smith

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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2020, 11:52:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on April 22, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
    These priestly abuses could only happen to parents who pay no attention to their children, and who are naïve, lax, idolizers of priests. Those predators knew exactly who to pick on. They picked the children with lax parents.

    My children would come to me within minutes of even getting the slightest evil hint from anyone
    It seems you didn't read the article.

    This entire investigation by Church Militant came out of a victim coming forward in St. Mary's.
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #11 on: April 22, 2020, 11:58:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Sam Smith on April 22, 2020, 11:52:54 AM
    It seems you didn't read the article.

    This entire investigation by Church Militant came out of a victim coming forward in St. Mary's.
    I read the entire article, every word. I did not judge any of the persons in the article.  I stated facts which apply to all predators, my advice is for parents. It applies to parents who take their children to the Novus Ordo, ICK, FSP, Sedes chapels, SSPX, Eastern Catholic......
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #12 on: April 22, 2020, 12:20:32 PM »
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    • Seems if we can discern that not every priest is an abuser, we should be able to discern what the information provided is, and whether or not it has merit and forget who delivered it.  No love for Voris, but the article shows some criminal actions and saying it mildly, really stupid ones.  In this day and age when information is readily available to all, and so many have fallen prey to the influence of the devils, priests and bishops should be taking more decisive measures to prevent scandal and abuse.  Even if there were only one victim, he deserves at the very least support and concern.  
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #13 on: April 22, 2020, 12:36:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on April 22, 2020, 12:20:32 PM
    Seems if we can discern that not every priest is an abuser, we should be able to discern what the information provided is, and whether or not it has merit and forget who delivered it.  No love for Voris, but the article shows some criminal actions and saying it mildly, really stupid ones.  In this day and age when information is readily available to all, and so many have fallen prey to the influence of the devils, priests and bishops should be taking more decisive measures to prevent scandal and abuse.  Even if there were only one victim, he deserves at the very least support and concern.  
    I don't disagree with what you said, but I do think in order to put all of this in the right context, even the FSSP has skeletons, which Voris chooses not to address. 
    And it goes without saying, even in Novus Ordo land, there are good priests mixed with bad and both might be under a bad ordinary. If Novus Ordo adherents are able to accept this, they should be able to discern when it comes to traditionalist groups too. 
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    Re: Michael Voris Publishes Article on SSPX Abuse
    « Reply #14 on: April 22, 2020, 12:42:30 PM »
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    • Michael Voris is a known liar and omiter of relevant facts
    which completely changes his story.  The above video proves
    this.  This is so full of lies, it's a wonder anyone would listen
    to Michael Voris. 

    I called him out on this issue and he refused to finisth the 
    discussion with me via email. 
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