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Michael Voris dissected
« on: April 25, 2020, 01:55:44 PM »
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  • Voris is a blatant judaizer.

    He's associated with Jews who promote the Noahide laws.

    And in his Church Militant video below at 4:00, he endorses Opus Dei

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    Wednesday, December 21, 2016

    Michael Voris’ Church Militant promotes the seven noahide laws




    Michael Voris’ Church Militant which bills itself as ‘authentic catholicism’, has been pushing a crowdfunding website, fundingmorality.com, run by the Jєωιѕн Institute for Global Awareness (JIFGA).  What’s wrong with that?  Well, the ‘morality’ being promoted is the anti-Christian Noahide Laws!  The founder of JIFGA, Arthur Goldberg tells Christine Niles,

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    “The platform will highlight people and projects that reflect this worldview as codified in the Noahide Laws, which are premised upon Biblical values as revealed to Noah after the Flood.”

    Below are two screenshots from the Church Militant post, New Crowdfunding Site Supports Moral Causes.

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    Surprised?

    You shouldn’t be.

    When one starts from the premise that the solution to the problems of the Novus Ordo church is Opus (ju)Dei then it is only logical that one would end up supporting an organization such as JIFGA touting the Noahide Laws as Biblical!






    What did Francis’ late rabbinical buddy Angel Kreiman have to say of Opus (ju)Dei?

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    “Many of Josemaria Escriva's concepts call to mind the тαℓмυdic tradition and reveal his profound knowledge of the Jєωιѕн world, as well as his passionate love, as he openly repeated, for two Jews, Jesus and Mary.  Moreover, that which most likens his teachings to Judaism is the vocation of man to serve God through creative work, perfecting creation every day, through perfection of work.”

    Kreiman further said that Christians and Jews need to “work together in favor of the principal humanitarian causes: social order, unemployment and poverty, drugs, hunger, and the fight against a consumerism empty of spirituality.”  Sounds just like what Church Militant and Francis are selling doesn’t it?


    Jorge Mario Bergoglio & Rabbi Angel Kreiman


    Sadly this isn’t the first time Mike and his Church Militant crew have promoted the Noahide Laws on their website.  For more information see, Church Militant’s New Organization Seeks to Promote Moral Law, which also contains the seven noahide laws as shown in the below screenshot.



    We can hear you asking what’s so bad about the Noahide Laws?

    First off they are not Biblical as Arthur Goldberg and Church Militant would have you believe.  They are anti-Biblical, anti-Christian, and anti-Christ rules created by the rabbis.  Want to know what one who follows the Noahide Laws believes about Our Savior, Jesus the Christ?  Then click here and read about how he was a false prophet who led the Jєωιѕн people astray, was sɛҳuąƖly immoral, practiced witchcraft, violated God’s laws, etc...


    Two rabbis laying down the noahide laws for gentiles.


    The Noahide Laws forbids idolatry.  That’s a good thing isn’t it?  Well, actually it isn’t good if you are a follower of Jesus the Christ.  We will return to that in a moment.  According to the book, The Path of the Righteous Gentile by the rabbis Chaim Clorfene and Yakov Rogalsky, in PART TWO: Serving an idol; making an idol, one reads:



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    2. A person transgresses only when he worships the idol in the normal manner ascribed to each respective idol. Conse­quently, courts of law have to know the appropriate service for the idol in any case of idolatry.
     
     3. The preceding law applies to unique forms of worship. If, however, the person bows down or offers sacrifices or incense or a libation (the four forms of service of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem) to any one of the idols, he incurs the death penalty even though this may not be the way of official worship.[12]
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    [12] Mishneh Torah, Laws of Idolatry, chapter 3, law 3

    Further in PART THREE: Convincing others to serve an idol; false prophets of the same book it says:

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    5. If a prophet prophesies in the name of an idol ‑ if he says for instance, “This particular idol or this particular star said to me that it is an obligation to do such‑and‑such or not to do such‑and‑such,” ‑ even if his words teach the law correctly, he is subject to the death penalty for idolatry.[39]
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    [39] Mishneh Torah, Laws of Idolatry, chapter 5, law 6

    Did you catch that?

    Worshiping an idol gets one the death penalty!  

    The book The Path of the Righteous Gentile is filled with admonitions against idol worshiping such as these.  We can hear you say, “Christ isn’t an idol and belief in him as the Savior of mankind isn’t idol worship!”  Did you notice the footnotes above?  What did they source?  The Mishneh Torah which is subtitled, Sefer Yad ha-Hazaka.  Translated this means, Repetition of the Torah: Book of the Strong Hand.  This is a code of Jєωιѕн religious law or halakha authored by the RaMBaM, Maimonides.  What does he have to say about Christians?  Yori Yanover writing for The Jєωιѕн Press says of the RaMBaM:

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    Halachically, Maimonides says in three distinct places that the Christians are idol worshipers.
     
     1. In his interpretation of the Mishna, tractate Avoda Zara 1:3, he writes: “Know that this Christian nation, who are making the claim of a messiah, with all their many different sects, are all idol worshipers and all their holidays are forbidden, and we deal with them regarding religious issues as we would pagans.”
     
     And he adds (AZ 4): “Therefore one must know that in every one of the Christian nation’s cities which has an altar, meaning their house of worship, it is a pagan house of idolatry without any doubt.”
     
     2. In the uncensored version of Hayad Hachazaka (Hilchot Avoda Zara 9:4), Maimonides issues the edict: “The Christians are idol worshipers and Sunday is their religious holiday, therefore in Eretz Israel we may not trade with them on Thursday and Friday of every week, and needless to say on Sunday, which is forbidden [for trade with Christians] everywhere.” Trade in this context refers especially to paying back loans, which would enhance their joy on the day of their idol.
     
     3. Also in Hayad Hachazaka, the laws of forbidden foods, the uncensored version (Hilchot Maachalot Asurot 11:7): “The Christians are idol worshippers and their regular wine if forbidden to be consumed” by Jews since it is likely to be used as libation in their pagan service.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #1 on: April 25, 2020, 02:00:12 PM »
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  •   The homo-boy, does a jig in his red papal slippers.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #2 on: April 25, 2020, 06:57:03 PM »
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  •  The homo-boy, does a jig in his red papal slippers.
    I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant
    Pope St. Pius X pray for us

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #3 on: April 25, 2020, 07:10:17 PM »
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  •  The homo-boy, does a jig in his red papal slippers.
    “Homo-boy”
    I guess I’m not the only one whose gαydar is beeping.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #4 on: April 25, 2020, 07:29:43 PM »
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  • I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant

    We are the result of all of the actions of our past. What we did creates who we are. Sins leave wounds and disordered desires.
    If I have to have a journalist leader, I want one who was not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ for the decades of his youth and then foisted himself on the stage out of nowhere as the only "REAL CATHOLIC" journalist in the world (independent of any Church or quasi-Church oversight unless it is true that he is controlled by Opus Dei), bashing all the Bishops for doing the same thing he spent most of his youth doing, without telling anyone about his past until the blackmailers came. Give me a murderer or a man who had affairs with women, but not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. I am not saying he is unrepentant. But did he spend ten years in the desert eating cactus fruit and wild honey saying the Jesus Prayer to do penance for his decades of sins and to heal his wounds?

    I mean I was a bad guy for five years before I reverted, but I was never a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and I am not claiming to be an authority and pontificating and condemning the Bishops of the Church (and also the traditional opposition). I just make posts on a forum that nobody reads.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2020, 07:36:47 PM »
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  • I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant
    We Catholics are our own worst enemy sometimes. Here is a man who is manifestly working in opposition of the Truth, as an aggressive, mercenary, for-profit shill for the Novus Ordo Church, and who has a past checkered enough to make him a suspect witness at best in any court of law, at least in the olden days when moral character counted for anything... who has a history of associating with bad ideas, and ruining others’ careers and reputations for his own self-centered, narcissistic ends. And we get squeamish because maybe reminding people that he’s a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and a thoroughly bad egg might possibly be uncharitable, and think that perhaps we should pretend he’s a university professor and restrict ourselves to only touching his ideas, in isolation. 
    The man is a scuмbag. His sins are public knowledge, and assuredly bear on his public words and deeds today. 

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #6 on: April 25, 2020, 08:54:30 PM »
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  • “Give me a murderer or a man who had affairs with women, but not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. I am not saying he is unrepentant. But did he spend ten years in the desert eating cactus fruit and wild honey saying the Jesus Prayer to do penance for his decades of sins and to heal his wounds.”
    Oh, but this is funny!  :laugh2:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #7 on: April 25, 2020, 08:54:56 PM »
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  • Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #8 on: April 25, 2020, 09:55:49 PM »
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  • (I posted this on the wrong Michael Voris thread)
    Besides Michael Voris' ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past, he still employs one Simon Rafe, who in 2011 was discovered to have been writing bisɛҳuąƖ fantasy porn online. Rafe was apparently moved off camera after the scandal broke, and put in a more "behind the scenes" role at St Michael's Media/ Church Militant. As far as I know Rafe is working there today, doing more on-camera work.
    Why wasn't he fired?
    Michael Voris needs to keep his house very clean while throwing stones.
    I also have a problem with Voris' Bieber-styled blonde highlighted toupe- not becoming to a Catholic man! (Remnants of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism- just sayin'.)
    MV's credability can certainly be questioned.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #9 on: April 25, 2020, 11:00:28 PM »
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  • Give me a murderer or a man who had affairs with women, but not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.
    I was expressing a hunch that Voris was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ from his fashion and mannerism.  I’m not as knowledgeable about the issues and players as most members here; but, it is apparently true.  It would be consistent with his behavior if he supports the Novus Ordo acceptance of celibate ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity or even monogamous gαy unions as a question of conscience.  Or even sodomy being a minor sin?
    Murderers and adulterers are not included in “Sins that cry out to Heaven” - sodomy does.  ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are self destructive.  His Church Militant is going after their own in the SSPX.
    And Christine Niles?  What’s her motivation in all this?  Her journalism smacks of suspicious bitterness.   Is her goal to “upset the apple cart” before she leaves the Faith and reverts to Protestantism?  Is she a “reformed” ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ like Voris?
    God help the SSPX.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2020, 12:13:25 AM »
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  • (I posted this on the wrong Michael Voris thread)
    Besides Michael Voris' ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past, he still employs one Simon Rafe, who in 2011 was discovered to have been writing bisɛҳuąƖ fantasy porn online. Rafe was apparently moved off camera after the scandal broke, and put in a more "behind the scenes" role at St Michael's Media/ Church Militant. As far as I know Rafe is working there today, doing more on-camera work.
    Why wasn't he fired?
    Michael Voris needs to keep his house very clean while throwing stones.
    I also have a problem with Voris' Bieber-styled blonde highlighted toupe- not becoming to a Catholic man! (Remnants of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism- just sayin'.)
    MV's credability can certainly be questioned.

    I criticized his hair and how he acts and called him gαy looking a few years ago on a thread here.  And then later I was proven right when he was forced to come out of the closet.  


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2020, 12:49:12 AM »
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  • I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant

    I'll paste a post of mine from another forum, made four years ago, which I believe addresses yours:

    If he'd been upfront about the kind of life he'd led at the beginning of his public appearances; if there'd been an appreciable lapse in time between the end of his life as an habitual sodomite and the commencement of his apostolate (let's say 5 - 10 years); if he'd taken pains to totally avoid any grossly unseemly, objectively suspicious activities that any sane person could see are a proximate occasion of sin for an ostensibly reformed sodomite (e.g. "Lenten Cruises," staffing and surrounding himself with young men barely old enough to vote, etc.); if he'd shown a willingness to work with and learn from the men who'd been out in the trenches fighting the good fight for the Faith during all those years he was flaming and fagging through life, instead of turning on them like a treacherous snake; if he'd treated the issue of the SSPX's status with some degree of intellectual honesty and emotionally detached rationality, and not with a shrill, hysterical, calumnious smear campaign designed to sow discord and strife among the already small and embattled camps of Traditional Catholics....

    If, if, if, if, if, if.....

    ...then, I can guarantee you, you'd not have seen even a fraction of this acrimony being poured out on Voris (which is really more a wholly justified and righteous indignation than anything else). No one is saying that a sodomite can't be reformed and forgiven with God's help and Grace, nor that they can never be of any use to the Church. The Church's policy against ordaining men with sodomitical inclinations is a rule whose prudence and reasonableness are self-evident. Extrapolating that policy to other positions of authority, leadership, and custodianship in Church life is likewise prudent and reasonable, not because "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity" is some immutable ontological "state," as the Fag Lobby itself would insist, but because this vice, in addition to all of the damage it does to a man's very manhood, and his ability to relate normally to other men, also leaves a man so crucially compromised in so many ways. Voris is but the most recent, obvious example of this.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #12 on: April 26, 2020, 12:55:29 PM »
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  • Don't forget the Filipino-American cross dressing veil wearing nαzι pornographer that Voris employed at Church Militant
    https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/from-fashion-to-fascism-local-photographer-scares-models

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2020, 02:00:23 PM »
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  • I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant
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    The Catholic thing to do for someone who has led a life of gross immorality and then repented is not to set himself up as an religious authority or some sort of public teacher of faith and morals. The true humility that goes along with repentance precludes such a thing, and if he were really repentance, he would accept the fact that he is not in a position to run a YouTube channel about theology or religious subjects, and never will be again.
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    Yes, I understand that St. Augustine does not follow this general rule. An exception does not remove the rule. Michael Voris is not another St. Augustine.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2020, 02:17:48 PM »
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    The Catholic thing to do for someone who has led a life of gross immorality and then repented is not to set himself up as an religious authority or some sort of public teacher of faith and morals. The true humility that goes along with repentance precludes such a thing
    So, you're saying you object to the Epistles written by St. Paul and believe he has no business teaching morality since in his past life he was a great sinner and persecutor of Christians who participated in the killing of St. Stephen?