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Offline tdrev123

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2020, 12:13:25 AM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on April 25, 2020, 09:55:49 PM
(I posted this on the wrong Michael Voris thread)
Besides Michael Voris' ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ past, he still employs one Simon Rafe, who in 2011 was discovered to have been writing bisɛҳuąƖ fantasy porn online. Rafe was apparently moved off camera after the scandal broke, and put in a more "behind the scenes" role at St Michael's Media/ Church Militant. As far as I know Rafe is working there today, doing more on-camera work.
Why wasn't he fired?
Michael Voris needs to keep his house very clean while throwing stones.
I also have a problem with Voris' Bieber-styled blonde highlighted toupe- not becoming to a Catholic man! (Remnants of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ narcissism- just sayin'.)
MV's credability can certainly be questioned.
I criticized his hair and how he acts and called him gαy looking a few years ago on a thread here.  And then later I was proven right when he was forced to come out of the closet.  
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Offline BTNYC

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2020, 12:49:12 AM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on April 25, 2020, 06:57:03 PM
I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant

I'll paste a post of mine from another forum, made four years ago, which I believe addresses yours:

If he'd been upfront about the kind of life he'd led at the beginning of his public appearances; if there'd been an appreciable lapse in time between the end of his life as an habitual sodomite and the commencement of his apostolate (let's say 5 - 10 years); if he'd taken pains to totally avoid any grossly unseemly, objectively suspicious activities that any sane person could see are a proximate occasion of sin for an ostensibly reformed sodomite (e.g. "Lenten Cruises," staffing and surrounding himself with young men barely old enough to vote, etc.); if he'd shown a willingness to work with and learn from the men who'd been out in the trenches fighting the good fight for the Faith during all those years he was flaming and fagging through life, instead of turning on them like a treacherous snake; if he'd treated the issue of the SSPX's status with some degree of intellectual honesty and emotionally detached rationality, and not with a shrill, hysterical, calumnious smear campaign designed to sow discord and strife among the already small and embattled camps of Traditional Catholics....

If, if, if, if, if, if.....

...then, I can guarantee you, you'd not have seen even a fraction of this acrimony being poured out on Voris (which is really more a wholly justified and righteous indignation than anything else). No one is saying that a sodomite can't be reformed and forgiven with God's help and Grace, nor that they can never be of any use to the Church. The Church's policy against ordaining men with sodomitical inclinations is a rule whose prudence and reasonableness are self-evident. Extrapolating that policy to other positions of authority, leadership, and custodianship in Church life is likewise prudent and reasonable, not because "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity" is some immutable ontological "state," as the Fag Lobby itself would insist, but because this vice, in addition to all of the damage it does to a man's very manhood, and his ability to relate normally to other men, also leaves a man so crucially compromised in so many ways. Voris is but the most recent, obvious example of this.
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Offline duck2050

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2020, 12:55:29 PM »
Don't forget the Filipino-American cross dressing veil wearing nαzι pornographer that Voris employed at Church Militant
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/from-fashion-to-fascism-local-photographer-scares-models
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2020, 02:00:23 PM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on April 25, 2020, 06:57:03 PM
I dislike him strongly, but why bring up his past? That’s not a Catholic thing to do unless they’re unrepentant, and he seems genuinely repentant
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The Catholic thing to do for someone who has led a life of gross immorality and then repented is not to set himself up as an religious authority or some sort of public teacher of faith and morals. The true humility that goes along with repentance precludes such a thing, and if he were really repentance, he would accept the fact that he is not in a position to run a YouTube channel about theology or religious subjects, and never will be again.
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Yes, I understand that St. Augustine does not follow this general rule. An exception does not remove the rule. Michael Voris is not another St. Augustine.
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Offline Sam Smith

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2020, 02:17:48 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on April 26, 2020, 02:00:23 PM
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The Catholic thing to do for someone who has led a life of gross immorality and then repented is not to set himself up as an religious authority or some sort of public teacher of faith and morals. The true humility that goes along with repentance precludes such a thing
So, you're saying you object to the Epistles written by St. Paul and believe he has no business teaching morality since in his past life he was a great sinner and persecutor of Christians who participated in the killing of St. Stephen?
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