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Offline Charity

Michael Voris and the SSPX
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:12:32 AM »
I don't know if the below video is old news on CI.    I just saw it for the first time. It's fairly outlandish to say the least.  Voris is claiming that the SSPX has been in schism for over four decades and that the the priests of the SSPX are not valid priests.  Therefore, he asserts that it you got married by a SSPX priest you are not married and if you went to a SSPX priest for confession your sins were not absolved.

In the video Voris castigates Archbishop Levebvre and the SSPX to the nth degree.

I was wondering if the SSPX has ever responded to this video or if Voris has ever had a public debate with someone regarding the matters he brings up in this video.





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Offline OneShotPaddy

Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2021, 10:28:53 AM »
Why would they bother? What the SSPX believe are their ordinaries have given them special faculties to marry and absolve regardless of what Voris thinks or believes. 

I'm not going to bother watching but I wonder whether his validity claim is with regards to the Lienart nonsense.  I can't see any reason to object to their *validity* otherwise.
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Offline Meg

Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2021, 11:21:38 AM »
I have to wonder about how many people actually pay attention to what Voris writes concerning the SSPX. There seems to be more sympathy for the SSPX position even among the conciliar crowd who are somewhat traditionally-minded, since it is obvious that Francis is very much against tradition. In reality, though, Bp. Fellay would like nothing more than to reconcile with modernist Rome. 

Voris seems to be out of touch with what is wrong in the conciliar church today. He may just be doing what his Opus Dei buddies want him to do.

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Offline Charity

Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2021, 11:37:33 AM »
Quote from: Meg on December 15, 2021, 11:21:38 AM
I have to wonder about how many people actually pay attention to what Voris writes concerning the SSPX. There seems to be more sympathy for the SSPX position even among the conciliar crowd who are somewhat traditionally-minded, since it is obvious that Francis is very much against tradition. 

Voris seems to be out of touch with what is wrong in the conciliar church today. He may just be doing what his Opus Dei buddies want him to do.

Are Voris and E. M. Jones completely on the same page regarding the SSPX?  Sad to say, Jones, as far as I know, still thinks he won the debate many years ago with Michael Davies on the question of whether or not the SSPX was in schism.
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Offline Meg

Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2021, 11:42:30 AM »
Quote from: Charity on December 15, 2021, 11:37:33 AM
Are Voris and E. M. Jones completely on the same page regarding the SSPX?  Sad to say, Jones, as far as I know, still thinks he won the debate many years ago with Michael Davies on the question of whether or not the SSPX was in schism.

I haven't kept up with Jones' position on the SSPX, so I can't answer that, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still thinks that the SSPX is in schism. Jones, like Voris, also has affiliations with Opus Dei,.
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