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Offline Incredulous

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Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
« on: August 03, 2018, 11:23:24 PM »
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  • It makes you wonder,  how much Michael Matt is getting paid for his editorial endorsements?  

    In 2012 he started his campaign to provide cover for the re-branded SSPX.

    In the Summer of 2018, he's touting Francis's indult mass poster-boy, Bp. Schneider.


    Bp. Schnieder speaks

    Remnant Comment: May God bless and keep this most courageous prince of the Church. Any person claiming to be a traditional Catholic, and yet criticizing Bishop Athanasius Schneider for doing this or for not doing that, should be dismissed as a rank interloper who can in no sense identify with the likes of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, and other pioneers of this movement who would have embraced Bishop Schneider as a gift from God.
    As one who's been in the fight for Catholic restoration all his life, I do not hesitate to publicly thank God for this man and to pledge The Remnant's prayer and unconditional support for his work. Please, God, guide and protect him, and Mary keep. MJM  

    But in his interview, Michal seems to have forgotten to ask Bp. Schneider the obvious ?

    "Um.. your Excellency, please tell us about the fruits of the spiritual labors in your diocese, Astanza Kazakhstan ?"


                      Astanza Kazakhstan, Illuminati Capital of the world


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2018, 11:39:55 PM »
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  • I have no hint as to whether Bp. Schneider might be a hireling or well-meaning. He sure is efficient in misleading half-awake souls to his sect.

    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 12:00:56 AM »
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  • "Any person claiming to be a traditional Catholic, and yet criticizing Bishop Athanasius Schneider for doing this or for not doing that, should be dismissed as a rank interloper who can in no sense identify with the likes of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, and other pioneers of this movement who would have embraced Bishop Schneider as a gift from God." -Michael Matt

    LMAO!

    Hey, Where's Archbishop Lefebvre in this pic??  
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2018, 12:09:54 AM »
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  • "Any person claiming to be a traditional Catholic, and yet criticizing Bishop Athanasius Schneider for doing this or for not doing that, should be dismissed as a rank interloper who can in no sense identify with the likes of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, and other pioneers of this movement who would have embraced Bishop Schneider as a gift from God." -Michael Matt


    Lord have mercy.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2018, 12:12:21 AM »
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  • Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2018, 12:21:34 AM »
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  • And concelebrating the Novus Ordo (But remember, it is not allowed to "criticize him for doing this, of for not doing that!"): 

    Archbishop Lefebvre would consider this a gift from God?

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2018, 07:43:02 AM »
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  • Interesting video on Kazakhstan. I never knew they had a city that advanced but very masonic looking, although  not  much classical style architecture  in the least. Does look very creepy, globalist and universalist, a peek into the "nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr".

    Also, the devil star thing is bordering on the insane. what is with these people?

    Isn't this the same part of the world that contained the Khazars that converted into  Jєωy-ism centuries ago?

    They are a strange breed.

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2018, 07:46:09 AM »
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  • "Any person claiming to be a traditional Catholic, and yet criticizing Bishop Athanasius Schneider for doing this or for not doing that, should be dismissed as a rank interloper who can in no sense identify with the likes of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davies, and other pioneers of this movement who would have embraced Bishop Schneider as a gift from God." -Michael Matt

    LMAO!

    Hey, Where's Archbishop Lefebvre in this pic??  
    What's with that soy-boy on the far left? What a pathetic looking group.


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 07:48:57 AM »
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  • Has Michael Matt or Bishop Schneider made any comments yet about their pope's recent change in Catholic teaching (i.e. Capital Punishment)?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #9 on: August 04, 2018, 08:08:07 AM »
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  • Bishop Schneider must be in the right place. Astana is Worldwide Ecuмenism Central. (Seat of the one world religion.)

    http://www.religions-congress.org/index.php?lang=english

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #10 on: August 04, 2018, 09:41:50 AM »
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  • Has Michael Matt or Bishop Schneider made any comments yet about their pope's recent change in Catholic teaching (i.e. Capital Punishment)?

    I doubt they're capable of making a true, traditional Catholic analysis  of Francis's error?  
    Suffice to say, Francis has attempted to undermine God's 5th Commandment.
    Denying the death penalty as a rule of  law, encourages more capital crimes against the innocent and removes justice from society.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #11 on: August 04, 2018, 10:16:02 AM »
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  • Wow the criticism and lack of respect for hierarchical office here is breathtaking. I don't believe that the bishop claims to be a traditionalist. I don't think he claims to be ++Lefebvre or anything else of the sort. Why make the comparison.  I'm rather fond of MJM and his work. He certainly does far more and true good than a bunch of website vigilantes hiding like cowards behind their keyboards and screen names. Jeesh.

    If a member of the hierarchy is friendly to Tradition (not necessarily a traditionalist) and the traditional movement, has been a leader of the public and official opposition to the current pontiff, and seems sincere (no man can read another's heart), why ostracize him in such a manner? Would it not be more fruitful to ask God for a full conversation of the man? To hope for his return to the full practice of the faith as handed down?

    I saw the video of Bp. Schneider at the conference MJM hosts from last year. I really enjoyed hearing him speak. I heard nothing more than a man trying to live his vocation out in the best way he knew how. I think we should be praying for bishops like this. If there is a restoration (Please, God) I cannot see any reason for it to leave out traditional Catholics like us who have absolutely no charity.

    With friends like us, who needs enemies?

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #12 on: August 04, 2018, 11:38:07 AM »
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  • Wow the criticism and lack of respect for hierarchical office here is breathtaking. I don't believe that the bishop claims to be a traditionalist. I don't think he claims to be ++Lefebvre or anything else of the sort. Why make the comparison.  I'm rather fond of MJM and his work. He certainly does far more and true good than a bunch of website vigilantes hiding like cowards behind their keyboards and screen names. Jeesh.

    If a member of the hierarchy is friendly to Tradition (not necessarily a traditionalist) and the traditional movement, has been a leader of the public and official opposition to the current pontiff, and seems sincere (no man can read another's heart), why ostracize him in such a manner? Would it not be more fruitful to ask God for a full conversation of the man? To hope for his return to the full practice of the faith as handed down?

    I saw the video of Bp. Schneider at the conference MJM hosts from last year. I really enjoyed hearing him speak. I heard nothing more than a man trying to live his vocation out in the best way he knew how. I think we should be praying for bishops like this. If there is a restoration (Please, God) I cannot see any reason for it to leave out traditional Catholics like us who have absolutely no charity.

    With friends like us, who needs enemies?

    I think you have your facts mixed up:

    It is Michael Matt who is making the comparison by lumping in Bishop Schneider with Archbishop Lefebvre by implying they are "birds of a feather" when he says that Archbishop Lefebvre would consider him a Godsend.

    You also seem to gloss over the distinction between respect for the heirarchical office (i.e., the episcopacy, presuming the new rite is valid, that is), and the man (ecuмenist, new Mass, concelebration, Vatican II).

    I have respect for the former, and contempt for the latter.

    Michael Matt has done more damage to the traditional movement (while proclaiming himself its greatest member) than practically anyone else around, with his conciliar tradcuмenism: Hey, we're all on the same team!

    Unfortunately, the man who pretends his agenda is the agenda of Archbishop Lefebvre would be roundly denounced by the latter for his indultarianism and tradcuмenism (both condemned by Lefebvre ad nauseum).

    You also seem not to have noticed which of us posts in his real name, and which of us is a "website vigilante hiding like a coward behind their keyboard and screen name."

    So far as +Schneider's alleged friendliness to Tradition, ABL said it was all a trap, but I know you can't handle that.  Still, you could have saved your breath for Bishop Fellay's choir, rather than waste it here.

    Regarding prayer for +Schneider's finding the integral faith, absolutely!  Full agreement!

    But what conference of MJM are you referring to?  His disgraceful tradcuмenical farce (which serves modernist Rome, rather than Tradition)?  If you enjoy such spectacles and conferences, it really says all I need to know about where you are at now days.  

    If there is to be a restoration, it will certainly not be by diluting tradition through Catholic Identity Conference-type tradcuмenism!

    In fact I'm not even sure it should be called "tradcuмenism," since that implies the other parties are traditional.

    It should be called what it is: Ecuмenism.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #13 on: August 04, 2018, 11:45:41 AM »
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  • Wow the criticism and lack of respect for hierarchical office here is breathtaking. I don't believe that the bishop claims to be a traditionalist. I don't think he claims to be ++Lefebvre or anything else of the sort. Why make the comparison.  I'm rather fond of MJM and his work. He certainly does far more and true good than a bunch of website vigilantes hiding like cowards behind their keyboards and screen names. Jeesh.

    If a member of the hierarchy is friendly to Tradition (not necessarily a traditionalist) and the traditional movement, has been a leader of the public and official opposition to the current pontiff, and seems sincere (no man can read another's heart), why ostracize him in such a manner? Would it not be more fruitful to ask God for a full conversation of the man? To hope for his return to the full practice of the faith as handed down?

    I saw the video of Bp. Schneider at the conference MJM hosts from last year. I really enjoyed hearing him speak. I heard nothing more than a man trying to live his vocation out in the best way he knew how. I think we should be praying for bishops like this. If there is a restoration (Please, God) I cannot see any reason for it to leave out traditional Catholics like us who have absolutely no charity.

    With friends like us, who needs enemies?

    Glad we took your breath away s2srea.

    You may be buying Bp. Schneider's conservative schtick, but' we're not.

    Ask yourself: How does he carry such international license to promote traditional Catholicism, when other priests and bishops are slapped down for doing the same?

    He's just a conservative front-man, with an ecuмenical mission to lure the SSPX faithful into the conciliar lair?



    Bishop Schneider, like the menorah... isn't part traditional Catholicism.

    They both belong in Astanza, with the illuminati :jester:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Matt pitches for Bp Athansius Schneider
    « Reply #14 on: August 04, 2018, 12:33:11 PM »
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  • What's with that soy-boy on the far left? What a pathetic looking group.

    Yeah and that little guy... 4th from the left... could he be a Rasputin understudy?  :facepalm:



    This co-religionist photo says it all for Bp. Schneider.

    But, to be sure, here's some more of his quotes:


    Saturday, April 11, 2015
    Bishop Athanasius Schneider will save the Church with interreligious dialogue!

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    “Anything that can bring about a mutual knowledge and respect between religions is a good thing.”



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    "Let us be grateful to God that Pope Francis has not spoken in the manner that was expected by the media. Up to now, he expresses in all his official homilies the beautiful Catholic doctrine."
    Bp. Schneider, 30 May 2014

    Athanasius Schneider wrote in his 2013 article,
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    A quote from an interview he granted to a French newspaper, Présent, January 10, 2015,
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    "It is the Vatican II Council that gave a wider understanding of the Mystery of the Church according to the Teaching of the Fathers of the Church […]. Thus, the Church has been seen as “a people made one with the unity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Lumen Gentium 4) "

    In a Latin Mass Magazine interview,
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    "Ecuмenism is necessary in order to be in contact with our separated brethren and in order to love them. From the depth of the challenge offered to us by the new paganism, we may and we must collaborate with non-Catholics who seriously wish to defend the revealed Divine Truth and the Natural Law that God created."

    Here's what he said at a conference for bishops in Rome on 17 December 2010,
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    "Taking account of the experience of several decades since then, of interpretations doctrinally and pastorally confused, and contrary to the continuity, over two millennia, of doctrine and prayer of the faith, the necessity and the urgency rise for a specific and authoritative intervention by the pontifical Magisterium for an authentic interpretation of the conciliar texts with completions and doctrinal clarifications: a type of “Syllabus errorum circa interpretationem Concilii Vaticani II.” There is need for a new Syllabus, this time directed not so much against errors coming from outside the Church, but against errors spread within the Church on the part of those who maintain a thesis of discontinuity and rupture with its doctrinal, liturgical, and pastoral application. Such a Syllabus would consist of two parts: a part marking errors and a positive part with propositions of doctrinal clarification, completion, and precision."
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi