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Message of Father Ortiz
« on: June 05, 2013, 02:08:42 PM »
04/29/2013
 
Message of Father Ortiz:

Dear Faithful,

I take this opportunity to thank you all for your response and the excellent organization of Fr Joseph Pfeiffer's visit.

Despite his busy schedule traveling everywhere around the world, Father immediately accepted my invitation to go to Australia to support you in the defense of the Catholic Faith.

Your answer to this visit went beyond our expectations... because, a part from a few of you with whom I was in contact these last months, I didn't know that there were so many others behind! May God bless you for your courage in front of many obstacles and for your commitment to the Resistance.

Father Pfeiffer told me that he was very much pleased and edified of what he saw in Australia. He was finally able to visit Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Streaky Bay (SA) and Adelaide.

Despite of the diversity of places and the different attendances he found in your country, Father saw always the same eager desire to remain faithful to the legacy of Archb. Lefebvre and to the founding principles of the Society of St Pius X.

Now we know that Australia is another important front in the combat for what we have fought in the past years: to remain faithful to Tradition without compromising.

Don't be afraid of reprisals from neo-SSPX pastors...

Father Pfeiffer is planning to send regularly to Australia a Resistance priest, and I also want to be one of them.

And as I celebrated a Mass for the success of this visit before, I will celebrate another one tomorrow to give thanks to Our Lord and His Holy Mother for its success.

It's sad to see that some priests in the SSPX, in different degrees, are compromising with the sell-out set up by Bp. Fellay.

So, the danger is not yet over, but on the contrary it's worsening. New docuмents came to light recently, like the DOCTRINAL PREAMBLE of April 15, 2012, carrying the proof that Bp Fellay has really gone too far in his concessions to the Modernist Rome concerning matters of doctrine.

What we need to prove here is not that Bp Fellay has said heresies... but more subtly, that he's not condemning error being his duty to do so, and particularly condemning the most monstrous error in Church's history, Modernism.

In this Doctrinal Preamble, he clearly refuses to condemn the main errors of Vatican II, he affirms the legitimacy of the Novus Ordo and finally accepts the New Canon Law.

All these three elements, against which we have being fighting for some many years, are explicitly accepted in this docuмent!

Please find attached an excellent study on the Doctrinal Preamble, which I recommend you TO READ IT AND TO GIVE AROUND COPIES.

We fear that something even worse will come to light very soon : the DOCTRINAL DECLARATION, which the last General Chapter (July 2012) asked Bp. Fellay to redact, after the rejection by Rome, for "political" reasons, of Bp. Fellay's Doctrinal Preamble in June.

As you can see, the main issue in our combat is about FAITH.

We have a double duty towards Faith: to profess it and to defend it.

The defense is always characterized by the condemnation of errors, which is precisely what the leaders of the SSPX are not doing, as in the past.
This is a characterized sin of omission.

Remain "steadfast in the Faith" (St Peter).

Keep united organizing some meetings in your houses, praying, deepening your faith, and most of all in mutual charity.

God bless you all.

Fr. Juan C. Ortiz

http://www.archbishoplefebvre.com/1/archives/04-2013/1.html

Message of Father Ortiz
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 04:01:57 PM »
Fr. Ortiz said,
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...Please find attached an excellent study on the Doctrinal Preamble, which I recommend you TO READ IT AND TO GIVE AROUND COPIES.


This study is found on a new dedicated Thread, entitled: "Bishop Fellay's 2012 Doctrinal Preamble, exposed by Fr Ortiz"

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=25036#p0


Message of Father Ortiz
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 04:27:26 PM »
Fr. Ortiz said:

"We fear that something even worse will come to light very soon : the DOCTRINAL DECLARATION, which the last General Chapter (July 2012) asked Bp. Fellay to redact, after the rejection by Rome, for "political" reasons, of Bp. Fellay's Doctrinal Preamble in June."

Question:

I am confused.

Is Fr. Ortiz saying Bishop Fellay signed 2 docuмents?

1) The April 15 doctrinal declaration (which has already been published), which was rejected by Rome in June;

2) A still secret edited version of this docuмent which took place at the July General Chapter, and subsequently re-submitted to Rome in July (which as yet has not been published)?

3) And that this 2nd declaration will be worse than the 1st???

 :surprised:

Message of Father Ortiz
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 05:54:23 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Fr. Ortiz said:

"We fear that something even worse will come to light very soon : the DOCTRINAL DECLARATION, which the last General Chapter (July 2012) asked Bp. Fellay to redact, after the rejection by Rome, for "political" reasons, of Bp. Fellay's Doctrinal Preamble in June."

Question:

I am confused.

Is Fr. Ortiz saying Bishop Fellay signed 2 docuмents?

1) The April 15 doctrinal declaration (which has already been published), which was rejected by Rome in June;

2) A still secret edited version of this docuмent which took place at the July General Chapter, and subsequently re-submitted to Rome in July (which as yet has not been published)?

3) And that this 2nd declaration will be worse than the 1st???

 :surprised:


Can anyone confirm with Fr Ortiz that this is what he intended to say?

Does he have information or reason to believe such is the case?

Or was he just wondering aloud whether such might be the case as a matter of idle speculation?

The answer is critical because if factual that this is what happened, then i have a follow-up question/observation that will scare you out of your pants:

It would mean we do not know Rome's response to this declaration amended at the general chapter!

Or have i misunderstood Fr Ortiz completely?

Message of Father Ortiz
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 06:20:25 PM »
Anyone remember the old ads for the "National Inquirer"?  "Inquiring Minds Want to Know!"
Let's adapt that to "Inquiring Souls NEED to Know!"  The so-called 'Preamble' is bad enough; but the 'Declaration' is worse?  If it is indeed titled a "declaration" and is signed by Bishop Fellay without retraction, can there be any doubt that the contents are "officially" what the SSPX now believes?  What possible excuse can be made?  No amount of convoluted logic will be able to "explain it away."  
We will soon see, but arguments will not convince those who have said in their hearts, "I've made up my mind.  Don't confuse me with the facts."  Is not such an attitude a step closer to the "sin against the Holy Ghost" and final impenitence?
O.L. of Mt. Carmel, pray for us!