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Father Gruner R.I.P.
« Reply #336 on: May 23, 2015, 05:28:25 PM »
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Maybe some of you will not appreciate me bringing up this issue once again.   But I do not require Cathinfo member approval, so I’ll just go ahead and  post some additional summary information in the wake of Fr. Gruner’s death.  I have learned the following recently from an impeccable source close to the situation, who will go unidentified.  Some of you may already be privy to some of this information.  No matter, it needs to be given to all.

First of all, my source tells me that it was a lone niece of Fr. Gruner’s who made the lion’s share of Father's funeral arrangements.  She apparently attends an sspx chapel there in the area.  She made most of the important decisions with, I understand, a lot of cooperation from Fr. Courtier.

Father Gruner’s two sisters, who are both NO Catholics, handed over to the niece all the responsibility for making final funeral arrangements.  They did not wish to be involved in them.
It appears that both the niece and Fr. Courtier were instrumental in securing the services of Bp Fellay on short notice.  (They got little or no interference from John Vennari, I’m sure.)

  One of the top people at the Fatima Center, however, himself a traditional Catholic, did not favor bringing in the SSPX Superior General to celebrate the funeral Mass.  He opposed the selection of Bp Fellay, but was obviously overruled.  It would appear, now, that +Fellay and the sspx, with undoubtedly a lot of cooperation from a few other key people, just muscled in.

Fr. Gruner, apparently, made no will prior to his death.  Furthermore, he left no instructions for how his remains should be disposed or who should preside over a Requiem Mass in the event of his death.

Surprisingly, very few of Gruner’s paid staff are traditional Catholics.  In fact, says my source, very few of them are NO Catholics, for that matter.  No, according to my source, “90 percent” of Fr. Gruner’s employees are Protestants.  I think we can safely say that the Fatimal Center could ever have been fairly described as a 'traditional Catholic' organization per se.  The coming together of The FC and SSPX is a phenomenon of recent provenance.

Fr. Gruner was a hands-on micro-manager of the Fatima Ctr.  I don’t think he envisioned a successor.  After his death, I’m told, the lady who currently edits the Fatima Crusader was put in charge.  She was quickly removed from her interim post by other members of the Fatima Center staff.

I think we're going to witness a  lot of future organization infighting and politics.  It may not be a very pretty sight to watch.  Pray for the repose of the soul of Fr. Gruner.  He was a good priest, dedicated to the Message of Fatima.  He will be missed.


If Fr. Gruner was micro-managing things, it's no wonder they couldn't find someone to fill his shoes.

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According to an employee at the Fatima Center, there was a board meeting last week.

Apparently according to this employee, Father Gruner's two sisters (NO)will be putting up for sale all assets held in Father Gruners name.

There was no will.

This is all I was told. Can anyone confirm?


Father Gruner R.I.P.
« Reply #337 on: May 25, 2015, 02:49:41 PM »
In the 1940's in the take over of Czechoslovakia,  the true priest and bishops were thrown out and priest and bishops replaced them.  That clergy was paid by the state.  My question is, who pays the new order?  All of new order, as we know, serves the state and the federal gov't.  They received grants and boast of it.  Federal gov't gives out money to the "faith-based" organizations.  My over question is, since Fr. Gruner was of the dioceses, would it be only right that he was to take on so many protestants on his staff?  Is that not ecuмenism in the new order's eyes?