Author Topic: Meet Our TOSF Fraternity Members (Read 2254 times)

BrJoseph · « **on:** December 27, 2014, 04:48:07 AM »

Meet the members of the Fraternity of St. Mary of the Angels here.
http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2014/12/26/meet-our-fraternity-members/

Centroamerica · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2014, 05:41:22 AM »

Quote from: BrJoseph

Meet the members of the Fraternity of St. Mary of the Angels here.
http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2014/12/26/meet-our-fraternity-members/

Can a secular priest be a father director? This seems to me to be a novel idea? Not attacking, just would like to know how this works? It would seem contrary to the Franciscan rule.

Francisco · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2014, 11:43:00 AM »

Quote from: BrJoseph

Meet the members of the Fraternity of St. Mary of the Angels here.
http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2014/12/26/meet-our-fraternity-members/

Very good! Please pray for us in India. Thank you!

BrJoseph · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2014, 04:20:30 PM »

Given the state of emergency and the lack of a 1st or 2nd Order Franciscan in the Resistance, we requested that Fr Pfeiffer, as the Superior of the Resistance in North America, grant faculties to Fr Hewko to be the Director. It is similar to the use of supplied jurisdiction within the SSPX and the Resistance.

BrJoseph · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2014, 05:31:57 PM »

I am in the TOSF as are the other founding members of our Fraternity. We were professed by Father Mery SSPX several years ago - he was delegated the power by Morgon.

Then, since according to the Rule and Constitution, any three professed members can form a fraternity, we did.

Then, as noted, analogous to supplied jurisdiction (provided by Divine Positive Law for the good of souls), in the absence of a 1st or 2nd Order Franciscan in the Resistance, we requested Fr Pfeiffer (the Superior of North American Resistance) to erect the Fraternity and appoint Fr Hewko as Director.

We believe that we are following proper procedures under the circuмstances.

BrJoseph · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2014, 05:44:49 PM »

I have nothing more to add.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2014, 08:51:27 PM »

If you professed to be third order Franciscans under Morgan than you all that did this would be third order Franciscans. I don't doubt this at all. The Rule says that a priest can be delegated to receive a profession. There is nothing stating that the priest delegated must have normal jurisdiction.

However, you have no right within procedures to do away with your superior and elect a secular priest with no jurisdiction as your superior. Technically, you would still have your superior of the order and you cannot change this unless you are expelled from the order, which you should consider has now probably happened. When you are professed into a third order you are not in a position to expel your superior. It is the contrary.