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Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
« on: November 16, 2014, 05:40:08 PM »
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  • Matthew,

    Could you please explain what the heck is going on .... like I'm 5?  I start to read some of these recent threads about a guy named Pablo and Fr Pfieffer and I just can't figure it out.  I've got to think there are others out there who are just as confused.

    TIA.

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 05:57:09 PM »
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    Matthew,

    Could you please explain what the heck is going on .... like I'm 5?  I start to read some of these recent threads about a guy named Pablo and Fr Pfieffer and I just can't figure it out.  I've got to think there are others out there who are just as confused.

    TIA.



    I'll do my best, but I'm on the phone right now. I'll try to answer your question though.
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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 06:05:46 PM »
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  • No rush of course.....

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 06:13:27 PM »
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  • I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on Pablo myself, having experienced him first-hand two years ago, but I can see where a good Pablo 101 summary could be useful for some folks at this point.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 06:32:28 PM »
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  • He claims to be a "lay exorcist", which is beyond diabolical. That's all I really know.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 06:37:19 PM »
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    Matthew,

    Could you please explain what the heck is going on .... like I'm 5?  I start to read some of these recent threads about a guy named Pablo and Fr Pfieffer and I just can't figure it out.  I've got to think there are others out there who are just as confused.

    TIA.



    Not Matthew, but.....

    Pablo has reportedly:

    1 - Attempted solemn exorcisms as both a layman and without delegation from the Church hierarchy. I cannot even begin to describe the risks involved.

    2 - Broadcast personal information of lay coordinators of most Resistance chapels in the United States, including personal addresses.

    3 - Claims to practice a code of silence usually associated with the Italian mafia.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 07:41:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: 2Vermont
    Matthew,

    Could you please explain what the heck is going on .... like I'm 5?  I start to read some of these recent threads about a guy named Pablo and Fr Pfieffer and I just can't figure it out.  I've got to think there are others out there who are just as confused.

    TIA.



    Pablo the M exican is a man named Paul Hernandez who has worked with Fr. Pfeiffer for years (hereafter referred to as "Pablo").

    Pablo made the news many years ago -- he's substantially the same today, just older:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/feature/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/

    Fr. Pfeiffer is quite attached to this particular man and his help. It is quite mysterious, as many laymen and priests have offered Fr. Pfeiffer many solemn warnings about Pablo. Fr. Pfeiffer thinks his organization can't function without Pablo -- despite the fact that people quit, avoid his organization, etc. BECAUSE OF Pablo.

    Pablo has a long history and reputation for being unstable, emotional, exaggerating, sowing confusion, verbally assaulting Traditional Catholics (including the parents of Fr. Pfeiffer!), etc. He was banned from CathInfo for some of these reasons, especially once it came to light he was performing exorcisms for third parties. He frequently talked about exorcism, the devil, and how sometimes fighting with the devil "goes to hand-to-hand combat".

    As the moderator of a large forum, I banned Pablo in 2012 for the good of the Resistance. I knew he was dangerous, especially for the reputation of the Resistance itself. My fears have been borne out.

    Recently, Pablo came out of relative calm/retirement to commit 2 heinous deeds:

    * Publicly slandering Fr. Zendejas and Bishop Williamson on the official "Our Lady of Mount Carmel" website, calling them "children of hell", "sheep stealers", and other foul slander.

    * Publicly posting the private names/addresses/phone numbers/emails of the 25 coordinators of all the Resistance chapels in the USA. The list clearly says "PRIVATE - Not to be published on the Internet".

    Pablo also wrote a rather disedifying (to say the least!) letter to all the chapel coordinators, which displayed a diabolical pride and hatred.

    PART II - Fr. Pfeiffer

    Fr. Pfeiffer can't exactly wash his hands of much of this -- for one thing, he is very much online. He has an iPad and a laptop, and is frequently online according to those who have worked with him. He does approve of everything posted to OurLadyOfMountCarmelUSA.com and InThisSignYouShallConquer.com. Any statements to the contrary are false. Yes, this is grave, and yes I realize what that means. I'd rather not spell it out, it's so distasteful.

    There is plenty of evidence for this. Things get posted there, and even if there's a huge outcry they last several days on the blogs. At that point, everyone has seen them and they would have "scrolled off" the radar anyhow. So Fr. Pfeiffer certainly approves of all the content there.

    I suggest you look at the threads about Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Zendejas. His sermon on Nov. 1 was quite shameful. He also brought people from other chapels to Danbury, CT so he could "seed the audience" with supporters. He literally stacked the deck with extra supporters from out of town! Why? So when he said during his sermon, "Which of us do you choose?" all his supporters would lead the way with "You, Father." and before you know it, the room is alive with support for Fr. Pfeiffer. How pathetic is that! What kind of game is he playing?

    Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo are "good cop, bad cop" at best. But a better analogy would be the United States and ISIS. The United States pretends to be law-abiding, but they have their proxy army (which they funded and trained) ISIS do all their dirty work (destabilizing Iraq, Syria, moving into countries the US wants to get into, etc.)

    By using a proxy army, you can avoid much of the criticism. People say "How awful that ISIS did this or that" and it's true -- ISIS was to blame. But few people know that ISIS was created and funded by the United States. So the REAL blame lies at the feet of the United States.

    If a man is killed by a hitman, who is guilty of murder? The hitman, the man who hired the hitman, or both?

    Fr. Pfeiffer's recent sermons substantially backed up Pablo in his attack on Fr. Zendejas.

    And to the best of my knowledge, Fr. Pfeiffer is completely standing behind Pablo during all of this, even with his recent crimes!

    On Saturday, Nov 15 Fr. Pfeiffer responded (via one of the Coordinators) and basically offered no chastisement of Pablo or any apology for what happened. In fact, everything he did (publishing the info) would go forward.

    The man who created the Coordinators List basically "fell on his sword for Fr. Pfeiffer" and claimed to be at fault for misunderstanding him. Which is completely bogus.

    Father is trying to sweep this under the rug.

    But again, we have to remember that although Pablo is indeed rough around the edges, he is substantially working for Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Pfeiffer largely approves of what he's doing!

    Fr. Pfeiffer is the White Elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.

    For that matter, I myself don't want to talk about this. Do you think I like saying unpleasant things about a priest? Don't kid yourself. I'm a good pious Catholic and I get no "nice internal feelings" from attacking this problem. On the contrary, it is extremely disturbing and brings me only sadness.
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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 07:49:02 PM »
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  • One more question?

    Why is he "Pablo the M exican" instead of "pablo the Amateur Exorcist"?

    What's up with the spacing?


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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 07:53:21 PM »
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    One more question?

    Why is he "Pablo the M exican" instead of "pablo the Amateur Exorcist"?

    What's up with the spacing?


    Because, as a sort of "never forget", I programmed CathInfo to change his usual trademarked name into something more accurate.

    He literally performed exorcisms on a hobby or amateur basis, so it's not just name calling to call him an "amateur exorcist".
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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 07:59:29 PM »
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    One more question?

    Why is he "Pablo the M exican" instead of "pablo the Amateur Exorcist"?

    What's up with the spacing?


    I suspect it was just a fat finger space (aka typo).  I have been here since before pablo was banned and well remember his "erratic" behavior.  He refers to himself as "pablo the M exican", so everyone else does also.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 08:07:10 PM »
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  • I gave more of a summary than a 5 year old's explanation.

    Here's a better summary:

    All the evidence/facts point to the fact that Fr. Pfeiffer backs up Pablo, even when Pablo commits objectively heinous deeds.

    A) Father's Nov. 1 sermon backs up Pablo's "children of hell" post about Fr. Zendejas and +Williamson

    B) Father's "resolution" to the Coordinator List issue? Basically nothing changes. No rebuke of Pablo whatsoever. He stands completely behind Pablo. The Coordinator List to remain public. Anyone wanting their private address OFF the Internet needs to resign and find another person to be Coordinator for his area.

    So much for "bad guy Pablo"!  It's Fr. Pfeiffer that's pulling the strings!

    Last but not least, Fr. Pfeiffer has never received sufficient criticism for his Red Light position on the SSPX. He actually teaches as his doctrine that attending ANY Mass of the SSPX today is committing "Communicatio in Sacris" or communion with heretics. You know, just like going to a Methodist church service.

    Ridiculous!

    Now we're supposed to leave the SSPX because of their bad doctrine, but we should swallow bad doctrine from Fr. Pfeiffer just because he's Fr. Pfeiffer?

    Sorry, no one gets a free pass.

    And I'm not opposing the neo-SSPX because I personally dislike Fr. Rostand, Fr. Pfluger, +Fellay, etc. No, I oppose them because of their bad doctrine and their compromises on the Faith.

    Why should I overlook Fr. Pfeiffer when he compromises for his own benefit (e.g., the red-light diktat which is calculated to make people dependent on him) -- isn't that exactly what we accuse +Fellay of? Compromising with Rome so he can have a cushier existence, more notoriety, etc.?

    Sauce for the goose is good for the gander.

    I had nothing against any SSPX priest 10 years ago. My only "opposition" today is for the sake of the Faith and the truth. Even so, I pray for the men involved. I don't "hate" any of them.

    God is not a respecter of persons. And neither should we be. If we are silent in the face of evil, He will hold us accountable for the good we COULD HAVE DONE if we had spoken up. We must be strong and trust in God.

    Trust me -- God doesn't let those down who work for Him first! And Our Lady certainly takes care of those who rely on her maternal help and protection. But we must love the Truth as much as she did.

    It's time to air this out in the open.

    Take courage, though, Fr. Pfeiffer is NOT the Resistance.
    We have an increasing number of priests doing just as much good for the Church and not working with Boston, KY at all. The Resistance will continue, whatever happens to Fr. Pfeiffer's group and seminary.
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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #11 on: November 16, 2014, 08:07:31 PM »
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    One more question?

    Why is he "Pablo the M exican" instead of "pablo the Amateur Exorcist"?

    What's up with the spacing?


    Because, as a sort of "never forget", I programmed CathInfo to change his usual trademarked name into something more accurate.

    He literally performed exorcisms on a hobby or amateur basis, so it's not just name calling to call him an "amateur exorcist".


     :roll-laugh1:

    I've never used the above smiley before, but this merits it.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #12 on: November 16, 2014, 08:09:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: holysoulsacademy
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    As for Pablo, that situation will be handled by Fr. Pfeiffer.


    That's what I thought some 20 months ago...

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    Quote from: cantatedomino
    . . . [Fr. Pfeiffer] did not take the warning signs or the personal warnings seriously, and so, in the end, the problem had to be taken care of by other men.

    So that's it?  The problem has been taken care of by Matthew's banishing him?  Problem solved?  Little more has been taken care of than the aesthetics of this forum.  Meanwhile this nut-job Pablo is still on the loose doing a bang-up PR job IRL for the Resistance.

    I personally do not attribute so high a level of connection between him and Fr. Pfeiffer as he has convinced most of you exists.  His postings and his interview scream that he is a narcissistic dramatizer to the Nth degree.  Maybe he occasionally drives for the good Father.  But I suppose any business conducted in his presence was only because nobody thought he'd be able to remember two syllables afterwards.

    But that's beside the point.  People gobble up what an animated bull#####er like Pablo is spreading, going around grandiosing his "connection" with the good Father.  So as long as this is going in IRL, the problem has not been taken care of and it is not the end of the problem.

    I am grateful that Matthew banned him.  That absolutely needed done.  But I applaud the additional efforts, too, to make certain Father Pfeiffer is made aware of all of this, as the IRL problem is hardly solved by his forum banishment.


    Since then--

    It's quite clear that there is a strong connection between Pablo and Father; and

    Father has failed to properly control him, or has acquiesced in his antics, or appreciates his antics.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #13 on: November 16, 2014, 08:18:16 PM »
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  • Btw--I by no means intend to slight Matthews efforts in banishing Pablo.  That was the most he could do and very appropriate.  I was simply stating that the problem that is "Pablo" was not thereby solved.

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    Matthew: Please explain like Im 5
    « Reply #14 on: November 16, 2014, 08:30:46 PM »
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    So much for "bad guy Pablo"!  It's Fr. Pfeiffer that's pulling the strings!


    Thank you, Matthew, for your courage in facing this truth even though it is so wrought with unthinkable conclusions about a priest.  This is going to be very difficult for a lot of people to swallow and some will just give up.  

    When we first began to question this relationship between Pablo and Fr. Pfeiffer none of us were sure who controlled who or if they were in this together.  I believe now the truth has surfaced.  Cathinfo members have done a masterful job of stripping away the layers of lies to get to the truth.  God's graces must be credited to those who when they see evil do not shrink from it but stand up and fight it.

    Much prayer is needed to know how to proceed from here.