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Offline jarheadusmc

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Marranos or Secret Jєωs and Bishop Fellay
« on: November 07, 2012, 09:59:53 PM »
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  • We are all becoming familiar with Krahgate, so to speak and now the Rothchild/Gutmann monies financing the SSPX.

    Although, within the Gutmann family there were aparently some "conversion" from Judaism to Catholicism, allow me to suggest that things are not always what they seem.

    The Rothchilds, Gutmanns and other Jєωιѕн Masonic families have intermarried numerous times.

    Add to this that Krah, although saying he is Catholic, he supports 100% Jєωιѕн causes, charities, and persons, along with indicating that he, Krah, has swallowed in total the moderist teachings on Judaism and the Holcaust, which when you add his contacts, his attacks on B. Williamson, his financial connections to Jєωιѕн monies, etc, much starts to make sense.

    Firstly:  It has been said that Archbishop Lefebvre had hand picked three to elevate to the Episcopacy, and that it was a friend of one of his main benefactors of Econe and the beginning of the SSPX, who had asked that a Swiss priest also be consecrated along with the other three, to which Archbishop Lefebvre agreed to and the only Swiss priest was Father Fellay.

    Then we come to find out from Fr. Chavel and others that after the Archbishop died and Bishop Fellay was elected (against the Archbishops wishes that no Bishop be head of the SSPX in order not to assume jurisdiction) that Bishop Fellay began to come under the influence of a "Medium or Mystic" or some questionable type.  Fr. Smidburger (spell?) and other SSPX leaders did their utmost to separate B. Fellay from the influence of this "mystic of sorts" as B. Fellay was conducting SSPX business and its mission under the guidance of this mystic who also told him he was destined to be great in the Church, thus inflaming his ego and ambition.

    Now we see that B. Fellay eventually hired Krah (by whose suggestion?) who was very supportive of Judaism, that the SSPX accepted monies that were at least indirectly tied to ʝʊdɛօ/Freemasonic sources, and began to purge all the SSPX websites of Jєωιѕн commentaries, sermons, etc.  Also, B. Fellay filed litigation against the Arcbhishops family to prevent the publication of the Archbishops "unedited public sermons" presumably to keep quiet the so-called anti-semitic, anti-pope, and anti-Muslim material from public view and hearing at a time he, B. Fellay was in negotiations with Rome.

    This all makes sense now of the "Williamson Affair":  Krah and B. Fellay attacked B. Williamson in numerous European media: Krah even attacked and denigrated B. Williamson, according to neutral witnesses at his trial, contrary to his soft soaping of his defense of the Bishop in his interview.

    So:  B. Fellay is negotiating with Rome - he needs to keep any negative sermons, material of the SSPX that previously spoke out against the Jєωs or the Pope in anyway, quite and removed from view, and so purges the entire SSPX of any material so called.  In other words it appears that B. Fellay was willling to bow down to Judaism in accepting Nostra Aetate and also did not want to insult or acquire the ire of his Jєωιѕн connected benefactors.

    My senses and understanding of the Jєωιѕн 5th Column, of the Marranos or Secret Jєωs makes me wonder if Krah and the Gutmann families are Jєωιѕн or Marranos from some generations back.

    Many Jєωs faked conversion in order to further themselves in stature, in business, and in the world, and so they took on Christian names, faked conversion but still practiced Judaism secretly while always undermining the Church in anyway they could - we even have the example of Cardinal Perlioni who was validly and licitly elected Pope Anchelet II - consequently he was declared an anti-pope by St's Norbert and Bernhard for the only reason that he was "morally unfit" to occupy the See of Peter and for no other reason.

    It seems to me that by all the evidence of Krah's Jєωιѕн contacts and the Gutmann family who were Jєωιѕн just a generation back - might well be "Marranos" - and it is still quite a mystery surrounding B. Fellay.

    Some priests have mentioned that there are infiltrators in the SSPX and circuмstantial evidence and actions indicate that B. Fellay, the Swiss priest that was asked to be consecrated, might very well be one of those infiltrators from the beginning.

    I know I'm dancing around some serious supicions but my gut seems to tell me that I'm touching on something more concrete than what is so far evident.  The suspicion that Krah is a Marranos is very high and that the Gutmanns, who some are still Jєωιѕн, are in the league of Marranos themselves for those that seemingly have converted.  Can you really see that the Rothchild/Gutmann families, who were and some still are, Jєωιѕн Freemasons, linked to one of the most evil enemies of the Church and Christ on earth, the Rothchilds, have had a few conversions - I think not - but what you have is still a connection to Jєωιѕн monies infiltrating the SSPX, for what reason?  We can guess.

    So, I leave that the Gutmanns are Jєωιѕн and with one apparently converted family member that is probably a "Marranos", that they are nevertheless connected by marriage and business and religion to the Rothchilds; that Maximillian Krah gives every evidence of being a Marranos as more and more comes public of his beliefs and connections.

    Finally:  B. Fellay gives out his real intention with the comment at the retreat meeeting of priest that "we have to think differently" meaning more inclined towards modernism and some idea of a compromise with Rome in order to be regularized and that I fulfill my destiny of "being great in the history of the Church" with some purple to go along with my mystics prophecy.




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    Marranos or Secret Jєωs and Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 10:18:43 PM »
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  • A most sensible analysis of the evidence.


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    Marranos or Secret Jєωs and Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 04:19:26 AM »
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  • BF is not doing this alone.... Fr Chazel mentioned a ring of influential Priests.....

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    Marranos or Secret Jєωs and Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 07:49:36 AM »
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  • When the deal is made, it will be a very big indicator if the Society does not reject Nostra Aetate. There really is no choice whereas the docuмent denies sacred Scripture.

    That will be THE question to put to Bishop Fellay first off. The answer, or non- answer will tell all.

    Nostra Aetate is non-negotiable to the Jєωs, and it is key to their control of the Catholic Church.

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    Marranos or Secret Jєωs and Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 08:19:24 AM »
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  • The idea that Bishop Fellay is a marrano doesn't mesh with your opinion that he wants to be a great man in the Church and follows some mystic. The latter suggests that he sincerely believes he's Catholic, though he's merely confused or has been taken advantage of by Jєωs. A marrano never believes in Catholicism. They know all the time that they are really Jєωιѕн infiltrators.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 09:26:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: guitarplucker
    The idea that Bishop Fellay is a marrano doesn't mesh with your opinion that he wants to be a great man in the Church and follows some mystic. The latter suggests that he sincerely believes he's Catholic, though he's merely confused or has been taken advantage of by Jєωs. A marrano never believes in Catholicism. They know all the time that they are really Jєωιѕн infiltrators.


    Maybe I need to re-read the OP, but I didn't pick up where he was saying Bishop Fellay is a marrano.  I thought he was saying it about Krah, & the von Gutmanns, "who ... are in the league of Marranos."  Where did he say Bishop Fellay was one?   :confused1:

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    « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 10:16:47 AM »
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  • A Jєω can perform a fake conversion if his conversion is for the benefit of his fellow Jєωs or for the destruction of an enemy.

    A Jєω who truly converts will be despised by his fellow Jєωs and his own family will sit shiva over him as if he were dead.  

    There are countless stories in real life and a few cases from the Bible where this routine was played out.  Queen Esther is one primary one.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 01:08:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: jarheadusmc
    It seems to me that by all the evidence of Krah's Jєωιѕн contacts and the Gutmann family who were Jєωιѕн just a generation back - might well be "Marranos"


    The Catholic Baroness Rosa von Gutmann had married the half-Jєωιѕн Baron and inherited his fortune. She became an SSPX follower and when she died in 2003, supposedly left about 80 million Euros to the SSPX. However, an entity call the the von Gutmann "family" retains control of the inheritance and had appointed Krah as trustee of the foundation that actually holds the money. The apparent head of the von Gutmann family is Dr. Gunter von Gutmann (pictured to the right of the priest), a former international banker and now part of a conventionally conservative European think tank.



    Gunter's parents carry the surname of Presenhuber so it is not clear what is his relation to Baroness Rosa von Gutmann, if any. The prefix "von" indicates is an hereditary baronage. Perhaps Gunter took the von Gutmann name in order to fill the office of baron.

    Krah appears to have seniority to +Fellay in the SSPX. Krah freely publishes scandalous material that greatly embarrasses +Fellay but +Fellay can do nothing to stop it.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 01:43:42 PM »
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  •  :popcorn: :popcorn:

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    « Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 03:03:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: PAT317
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    The idea that Bishop Fellay is a marrano doesn't mesh with your opinion that he wants to be a great man in the Church and follows some mystic. The latter suggests that he sincerely believes he's Catholic, though he's merely confused or has been taken advantage of by Jєωs. A marrano never believes in Catholicism. They know all the time that they are really Jєωιѕн infiltrators.


    Maybe I need to re-read the OP, but I didn't pick up where he was saying Bishop Fellay is a marrano.  I thought he was saying it about Krah, & the von Gutmanns, "who ... are in the league of Marranos."  Where did he say Bishop Fellay was one?   :confused1:


    You're right! I didn't read it carefully enough and got Fellay mixed up in my mind with Krah.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 04:50:26 PM »
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  • Hasn't +Fellay (recently somewhere) referred to the Jєωs as "our elder brothers in the Faith"?


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    « Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 05:24:49 PM »
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  • jarhead:
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    I know I'm dancing around some serious supicions but my gut seems to tell me that I'm touching on something more concrete than what is so far evident.


    I think a lot of our 'guts' are delivering similar messages.  Somehow or other Fellay & Co are tied into "our elder brothers."  They have fallen under the influence of the Tribe.  I doubt seriously that very many of us who have followed these events pretty closely for three years thinks differently than Jarhead.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 06:11:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Kelley
    Hasn't +Fellay (recently somewhere) referred to the Jєωs as "our elder brothers in the Faith"?


    The one I know of is from 2009, and is as follows:

    Fellay: "The Jєωs are 'our elder brothers'."

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    ... The Jєωs are "our elder brothers" in the sense that we have something in common, that is, the old Covenant. It is true that the acknowledgment of the coming of the Messiah separates us.
     2/02/2009  

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    « Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 08:13:38 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay's actions and comments going all the way back to his "Dinner with the Romans" in the year 2000, should be suspect.

    Everything he has done or said from 2008 on should be closely reviewed and questioned in light of his Jaidoff inheritance sell-out to zionist Max Krah.

    As Msgr. Fellay did with all the lectures and sermons of Bp. Williamson, all of Bp. Fellay's written and recorded history should be thoroughly screened for pro-judaic and pro-conciliar church bias.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 06:25:29 PM »
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  • Good job, jarhead. We continue to be made aware of the depth of this very suspicious relationship. Pursue this further.