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Offline Matthew

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Re: Man arrested for email
« Reply #120 on: July 01, 2025, 10:37:49 AM »
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    Where these INCEL, parents' basement-dwelling, flat-earth believing, abuse-minimising losers hang out


    Clearly Piano Man isn't being emotional AT ALL here... ::)

    Plenty of us are married, so... not involuntary celebate.
    I may not have a stone chapel like he has, or a six figure income from Youtube, but I do have a house with 5 acre property, so... not in my mom's basement.
    Most CI members have normal homes -- not living with parents.

    CI members hold a wide variety of views and opinions on just about everything. We are not cult members, who all adhere to the same opinions/views. We all think for ourselves. We don't all agree on anything, except maybe the Catholic Faith.

    But he's wrong about ANY of us being tolerant of ANY level of child abuse or sɛҳuąƖ deviancy in the clergy. We are as intolerant of this as he COULD EVER PRETEND to be.

    To be charitable, I will call out Piano Man for being very SUPERFICIAL and IGNORANT regarding his whole attack on CathInfo. He really needs to get a clue about what CathInfo is, and what the "SSPX Resistance" is. Because he is currently laboring under some SERIOUS ignorance.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #121 on: July 01, 2025, 10:47:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on June 25, 2025, 10:26:07 AM
    Ugh!

    Those photos... it really makes you wonder about that guy. That's a huge understatement though.

    Isn't he married? Why is he flirting and cavorting with women like that? Those are single moment snapshots. What happened minutes before and after those snapshots? We're not talking about a man taking a simple photo standing next to a woman wearing typical modern attire, such as shorts or pants. No, nothing that banal.

    Having a woman do the splits on your piano? Holding grossly immodestly dressed women close? That one woman has her leg overlapping on him, and look at how much paint had to be applied to make the image non-pornographic!

    At least one of those photos is probably his wife. Maybe they all are his wife? But even if they were, it's grossly immodest and promoting indecency. It is not lawful for a Catholic to use sex (in ANY form, even subtle suggestion or titillation) to promote their brand, business, etc. We're talking about making people think about sex when they otherwise wouldn't be. That is not permitted by Catholic morality. There are NINE ways to commit sin, remember? One of them is to lead others into sin.

    This man needs to look into Catholic morality. Does he even know what an occasion of sin is? Does he know that leading others into sin is ITSELF a sin?

    This man wants to be a rock star, complete with the "sex" component of that lifestyle. That seems to be a bigger priority for him than being a good (Traditional) Catholic.

    Oh… He’s an artist 🤷‍♂️
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #122 on: July 01, 2025, 11:51:50 AM »
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    • Piano Man does not have a low IQ. He can't be that stupid. He must have a reason for "picking a fight" with CathInfo for insane reasons, and sending people here.

    Almost as if he's been forbidden to name the priest, but he knows the priest's name is found in this thread.

    That is the only explanation for his inexplicable stupidity in confusing the "SSPX Resistance" with a random discussion forum.
    Or nit-picking our criticism of his public photos, which are objectively violations of Catholic morality/decency.
    He HAD to pick SOMETHING plausible, some excuse to pick a fight and send traffic over here.

    If you have a better hypothesis, I'm all ears. But for now, that seems to be the most likely explanation.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #123 on: July 01, 2025, 11:56:27 AM »
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    • Interesting comments...

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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #124 on: July 01, 2025, 12:05:07 PM »
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    • What is the Essex PX resistance, and why does piano man want them investigated? Sounds British.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #125 on: July 01, 2025, 12:12:41 PM »
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    • It's shocking that he's been able to cover it up for so long, regarding Fr. Moran. How?


    Martinique, where he was based, is French territory. It is to France what Puerto Rico or Hawaii is to the US. Having him convicted and tried and jailed in either France or Ireland wouldn't be hard.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #126 on: July 01, 2025, 12:23:32 PM »
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    • I was told 'Dr K' had, for a while at least, played the organ at the SSPX chapel in North London and that is how he originally met Fr Paul Morgan.

    As has been said above by Ladislaus there needs to be a clarifying statement by Bp Morgan confirming (a) appropriate safeguarding checks were made WRT Kelly/Ciaran Moran and (b) whether he was ordained sub-conditione and by whom.  That would settle the issue.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #127 on: July 01, 2025, 12:55:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on July 01, 2025, 11:56:27 AM
    Interesting comments...



    Ok, now it's all making sense.  Piano guy was probably buddy-buddy with +Williamson.  But now that +W is gone (+RIP) and Bishop Morgan is in charge, the dynamic of things changed.  Piano guy's relationship with the Resistance changed once +Morgan took over, and he's not happy.  Just like when a new CEO comes into a company, things are done differently.  Happens all the time.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #128 on: July 01, 2025, 01:03:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 01, 2025, 12:55:27 PM
    Ok, now it's all making sense.  Piano guy was probably buddy-buddy with +Williamson.  But now that +W is gone (+RIP) and Bishop Morgan is in charge, the dynamic of things changed.  Piano guy's relationship with the Resistance changed once +Morgan took over, and he's not happy.  Just like when a new CEO comes into a company, things are done differently.  Happens all the time.
    That theory doesn't seem to fit imo. Even if Piano Man decided he hated Bp Morgan, he wouldn't be able to simply fabricate this Fr. Moran situation.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #129 on: July 01, 2025, 01:07:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Philip on July 01, 2025, 12:23:32 PM
    I was told 'Dr K' had, for a while at least, played the organ at the SSPX chapel in North London and that is how he originally met Fr Paul Morgan.

    As has been said above by Ladislaus there needs to be a clarifying statement by Bp Morgan confirming (a) appropriate safeguarding checks were made WRT Kelly/Ciaran Moran and (b) whether he was ordained sub-conditione and by whom.  That would settle the issue.

    I might even accept not making appropriate checks into Moran's background up front (not sure how easy that would be across different countries -- would he be listed by InterPol?) ... as at worst an act of negligence, and at best just inability to figure out how to check.  If negligence, then it's serious, but not something that could not be corrected and taken for a "lesson learned".  

    What I'd be more concerned about is it could be established that Bishop Morgan knew about Moran's background but insisted on continue working with him despite the danger he might potentially pose ... and it would compound the problem if he is in fact, as has been alleged, blocking people just for demanding answers.

    On a related matter, a purported letter from +Vigano indicates that this WAS the case for +Ballini, where +Ballini was informed but then refused to sever a working relationship with him.  I would accept +Vigano's testimony that this is in fact the case ... just that the purported letter from +Vigano could easily have been fabricated, so we'd need to rule that out.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #130 on: July 01, 2025, 01:09:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on July 01, 2025, 12:12:41 PM
    It's shocking that he's been able to cover it up for so long, regarding Fr. Moran. How?


    Martinique, where he was based, is French territory. It is to France what Puerto Rico or Hawaii is to the US. Having him convicted and tried and jailed in either France or Ireland wouldn't be hard.

    How long was it, though?  From what I read Moran was put on trial / investigation in 2022 and finally convicted in June 2024.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #131 on: July 01, 2025, 01:10:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 01, 2025, 11:51:50 AM
    Piano Man does not have a low IQ. He can't be that stupid. He must have a reason for "picking a fight" with CathInfo for insane reasons, and sending people here.

    Almost as if he's been forbidden to name the priest, but he knows the priest's name is found in this thread.

    Yeah, that might explain why he keeps saying "Father Fake", because evidently over there one can be arrested for writing an e-mail and possibly sued for defamation, i.e. people who named Moran here on CI would over there be arrested, prosecuted, or at least harassed for doing so.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #132 on: July 01, 2025, 01:14:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 01, 2025, 10:37:49 AM

    Clearly Piano Man isn't being emotional AT ALL here... ::)

    Plenty of us are married, so... not involuntary celebate.
    I may not have a stone chapel like he has, or a six figure income from Youtube, but I do have a house with 5 acre property, so... not in my mom's basement.
    Most CI members have normal homes -- not living with parents.

    CI members hold a wide variety of views and opinions on just about everything. We are not cult members, who all adhere to the same opinions/views. We all think for ourselves. We don't all agree on anything, except maybe the Catholic Faith.

    But he's wrong about ANY of us being tolerant of ANY level of child abuse or sɛҳuąƖ deviancy in the clergy. We are as intolerant of this as he COULD EVER PRETEND to be.

    To be charitable, I will call out Piano Man for being very SUPERFICIAL and IGNORANT regarding his whole attack on CathInfo. He really needs to get a clue about what CathInfo is, and what the "SSPX Resistance" is. Because he is currently laboring under some SERIOUS ignorance.

    Yeah, he appears to be snowflaking out here due to what began as very mild and subtle criticism, and then making strawmen like we're all attacking him in order to run cover for Bishop Morgan and to condone whatever malfeasance he may be guilty of.  Sounds like his ego has been bruised, and now he's lashing out making false accusations, things that evidently he could be arrested for over there ... as per your debunking of his claims above here, Matthew.

    I'd say Piano Dude is slandering us by claiming that we condone predation upon children, quite the contrary.  He should grow up and realize that we're just trying to get the facts before dragging Bishop Morgan out, lynching him, or, over there, drawing and quartering him in the public square.  Many people have been subjected to flase accusations, ruining their good name ... and we simply do not want to commit such a grave injustice.

    I'm sure that every single poster here, to a person, would be outraged if in fact it were established that Bishop Morgan had been knowing working with a predator who has not only been credibly accused by even found guilty in formal proceedings.  I'd be calling for his arrest, personally.

    So this whole notion of circling the wagons to defend predation upon children ... that's completely false and slanderous.

    If Piano Man keeps it up, we should consider bringing a defamation lawsuit against him, eh? ... since he has a huge audience.

    Mr. Piano Man, please make a retraction of some of your false and defamatory accusations against us, or else you may be the subject of a defamation suit.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #133 on: July 01, 2025, 01:20:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on July 01, 2025, 01:03:04 PM
    That theory doesn't seem to fit imo. Even if Piano Man decided he hated Bp Morgan, he wouldn't be able to simply fabricate this Fr. Moran situation.
    True.  But the opposite is also true...Even if Piano Man decided he hated Bp Morgan, would he completely do a 180 and hate the Resistance (and start trashing Tradition itself)?

    Unless he is associating Fr Moran with Bp Morgan, as an example of the 'new resistance' (i.e. post +Williamson)? 

    Seems to me that Piano guy has 2 complaints:  a) the new resistance leadership in england and b) this Fr Moran situation.

    If this Fr Moran was an isolated incident, then I don't think Piano guy would be so quick to give up Traditionalism as a 'cult'.  Unless he never truly 'bought in' to what the Resistance stood for in the first place. 

    ...which highlights the problems that the new-sspx/resistance have, in as far as a 'ticking time bomb' of allowing more and more "not-really-Trads-but-I-like-the-latin-mass" people into their chapels.  It's just a matter of time before these people betray/leave the new-sspx/resistance.  These people were never truly Trads.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #134 on: July 01, 2025, 01:22:48 PM »
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    • I don't think anyone says he's fabricating the "Fr. Moran situation".  What we don't know and has only been promoted by little evidence, and mosly by insinuation ... is Bishop Morgan's role in the matter.
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