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Re: Man arrested for email
« Reply #240 on: July 06, 2025, 11:26:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on July 03, 2025, 04:41:12 PM
    He was not a priest in the Conciliar Church, only a deacon.
    This is a bit intriguing...Fr. Fake, (as a Deacon very probably?) gets dismissed June 6, 2024, and, Voilà! he already knows how to say the Trad Tridentine mass!? There are two FSSP locations in that diocese  so we could presume he was familiar with the Latin liturgy. So   when Fr.Fake was in Broadstairs ( July ?August? 2024), did +W give him extra training? Ask any seminarian and they will tell you that learning all the rubrics, gestures etc for saying mass is quite complicated. Surely there must have been red flags noticed by some of our bishops
    ...mysterious imo.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #241 on: July 06, 2025, 11:30:17 AM »
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    • You need a serious update for Bp. Trinh.

    1. He is not "diocesan" at all. The simple fact of being formed outside the SSPX "at some point in the past" does not equal diocesan.
    2. Related to #1, he is very much a TRADITIONAL priest/bishop, operating independent chapels according to the manner of the Traditional Movement. There is no part of him that could be REMOTELY described as conciliar, novus, indult, or diocesan.
    3. As for his lineage, he is a valid bishop. Consecrated by an SSPX bishop, and when he couldn't get docuмents/proof of that, he got conditionally consecrated by Bp. Slupski. He's definitely a bishop.
    4. He is very prudent/cautious about his apostolate, after the manner of "Traditional pioneer" priests coming from Communist countries -- like Fr. Slupski. Having known both men IRL, I can say that Bp. Trinh reminded me a lot of Bp. Slupski. Probably because they both had to fight Communism personally: one was from Vietnam, the other from Poland.

    As I've said on CathInfo many times, I was raised in a Traditional chapel, with Fr. Frank Slupski as my priest. He want by "Fr. Frank" not because he was novus ordo, but because it was harder for the Stasi to track. He learned through tough life experience to be careful with one's personal information, etc.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #242 on: July 06, 2025, 11:33:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on July 06, 2025, 11:26:47 AM
    Ask any seminarian and they will tell you that learning all the rubrics, gestures etc for saying mass is quite complicated. Surely there must have been red flags noticed by some of our bishops

    As an ex-seminarian, I would say the exact opposite. At the Seminary, a man began to learn how to say Mass WEEKS before his Ordination to the priesthood. Sure, he might have planned ahead a bit and learned some of the prayers -- I don't know how much of that went on. But:

    1. Fr. Goettler only began training deacons to say Mass a number of weeks before Ordinations
    2. The common opinion, in various Trad circles, is that "learning to say Mass is the easy part". It's the Traditional training: morality, theology, philosophy, history, Liturgy, Scripture, Latin that takes years.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #243 on: July 06, 2025, 05:42:46 PM »
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    To your point about the Mass not being difficult.  Hardest part really
    is the Latin.  Rest is explained here by Fr. Goettler in 2 hours ... and
    that's the meticulous "Goettler" type of explanation.

    Now, it would require some practice, and it is in fact easier if you've
    been serving, have been MC and had different roles in Solemn /
    Pontifical / Cantata ... easier to absorb.

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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #244 on: July 06, 2025, 08:19:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 06, 2025, 11:19:51 AM
    Come on, guy, red-lining a priest because he's deceased, or sedevacantist, is not the same as re-lining because of skeletons in his closet or having "a past".
    You shouldn't confuse the two. Your statement above sounds like you had to remove 1/3 of Resistance priests due to pedophilia. That is a misleading, click-baitey statement. And honestly, I don't think you meant to say that.
    Of course not, no. I just meant that I do "severe" checks and would rather not list a priest than list him than list him and he turns out to be fraudulent. I apologize for the poor word choice.

    I removed 1/3rd for various reasons: being dead is a pretty obvious one. Then there were priests who didn't exist or I got the wrong person. Or I didn't find ANY locations, so in that case it doesn't matter anyways. I did my background checks with "Claude Research", so that it auto-searches hundreds of forums, personal blogs, archives and whatnot.

    Wrt. to sedevacantists, I do list sedevacantists, ex. Fr. Ribas in Spain or Fr. Ringrose. That's not the issue. The issue is when they become "dogmatic" (ex. the late Fr. Weinzierl) or join existing sede organizations (i.e. I don't list priests that are already part of the CMRI, IBMC, SSPV, RCI - because what's the point, they don't need to be listed on two websites, if you want a sede priest, just go there).

    I am not sure about Fr. Kramer and Bp. Roy. The former doesn't minister anymore (?) and the latter got kicked out by BpW (although in my opinion unfairly, as he states on his website, he published all the emails with BpW).

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    You need a serious update for Bp. Trinh.

    1. He is not "diocesan" at all. The simple fact of being formed outside the SSPX "at some point in the past" does not equal diocesan.

    No, it's because the AI gave me a report for "Rev. Paul Thai Trinh", a priest from the "Parochial Vicar at Our Lady Queen of Angels Catholic Church" in California. The notes column said: "Does not exists? Confusion with Fr. Paul Thai Trihn exists in California, but this is a still-diocesan priest with similar name"

    You are referring to Fr. (now Bp.) Anton Tai Trinh, a different person. I'm sorry, I did the checks semi-automatically since I didn't want to spend days researching priests. I fixed the mistake, he's properly listed now - however, I have no contact info other than to contact Fr. Ringrose.

    In any case, it would be better to do this in a separate thread (I'll make one once I have the articles on there working with nihil obstat, etc.). Then we can verify the rest of the priests.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #245 on: July 06, 2025, 08:53:47 PM »
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    • Before April 1, 2025 the investigation was already under way in Ireland about the Resistance movement/faithful , and " Fr." Fake. This newspaper reported that in its April 1 edition. So law enforcement agencies (even in England we could well imagine, given how cops communicate internationally) were already up to speed about this Defrocked cleric.
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    "....Gardaí have confirmed that enquiries into the group are ongoing on foot of a complaint which alleges safeguarding breaches in relation to the defrocked priest. It is understood that at least one safeguarding organisation has also referred the matter to Tusla...."

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    6 policemen... to check up on some emails? The very morning the article appeared!!??
    Surely someone of the Irish Resistance could have read this article, given notice to Broadstairs or whoever, and then someone could have reacted. ..or done some explaining before the Youtu be Arrest Video went online.
    Sorry I'm getting redundant, but this is "mysterious".
    Now the Resistance is reeling...
    So disappointing.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #246 on: July 06, 2025, 08:59:55 PM »
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    • "2. The common opinion, in various Trad circles, is that "learning to say Mass is the easy part". It's the Traditional training: morality, theology, philosophy, history, Liturgy, Scripture, Latin that takes years."

    Mr. Moran's clerical training at Martinique was with the New Rite mainstream Church. Would it be possible to learn within 6-9 months (from the time he was laicized to the time Bishop Ballini put him on the Resistance circuit), everything you need in order to be a properly formed traditional priest? I mean, would his previous Novus Order training have offered some traditional value; that this is the explanation behind why he was rushed onto the public circuit after learning the basics of the Old Rite?


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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #247 on: July 08, 2025, 05:02:42 PM »
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    • Baldwin IV -

    Hi, just wondering if you have had any response from Bishop Morgan yet? Even privately. It's such a sad state of affairs. We knew Bishop Morgan (when he was Father) very well and our son used to be taught by Dr. Kavanagh before his internet career took off. They both used to be such good friends so this sudden hostility just doesn't make sense.

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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #248 on: July 08, 2025, 06:44:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Boru on July 08, 2025, 05:02:42 PM
    Baldwin IV -

    Hi, just wondering if you have had any response from Bishop Morgan yet? Even privately. It's such a sad state of affairs. We knew Bishop Morgan (when he was Father) very well and our son used to be taught by Dr. Kavanagh before his internet career took off. They both used to be such good friends so this sudden hostility just doesn't make sense.
    No, nothing yet. I doubt there will be a lot of updates in the coming months. I'll ask Fr. Marcel to ask Broadstairs in person, next time he's in England (he is occasionally). But this can take months. Bishop Morgan was described to me as a "diplomatic" personality. So yeah, I don't understand it either. Well, we need to pray.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #249 on: July 08, 2025, 07:34:47 PM »
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    • Thanks, appreciate the reply. And yes, both parties are in our prayers.
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    « Reply #250 on: July 09, 2025, 08:17:36 AM »
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    • That’s why the “set-up” scandal is plausible.
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    « Reply #251 on: July 09, 2025, 12:33:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 09, 2025, 08:17:36 AM
    That’s why the “set-up” scandal is plausible.
    What do you mean
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    « Reply #252 on: July 09, 2025, 12:57:57 PM »
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    • The lack of response from the (2) Resistance Bishops, Vigano’s comments and the “victim” Brit who launched the viral complaint are all “irregular” events.
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    « Reply #253 on: July 09, 2025, 01:17:05 PM »
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    • One other point on Kavanagh’s  Catholic pedigree that needs to be considered is his relationship with the pseudo-Revisionist historian David Irving.

    One post stated that Kavanagh had introduced +W to him.  And supposedly HE developed his h0Ɩ0h0αx opinions based on this influence.

    But for Catholics seeking the truth, what was Irving selling us?  His general theme is that Hitler was a good guy.

    But that not true.  The nαzιs were Rothschild funded, and their hidden agenda was to herd European jews to Palestine to claim nationhood later.

    One point that struck me on Irving’s false scholarship, was his attack on Colonel Klaus Von Stauffenberg.  

    Irving labeled Stauffenberg a traitor for his attempt to αssαssιnαtҽ Hitler.

    Stauffenberg was a devout Catholic and blue blood of German military tradition.
    He had sought advice from his Bishop and received his Apostolic blessing before his mission to depose Hitler.

    Even though the mission failed and Hitler executed over 4,000 Germans in vengeance, it remains a selfless, patriotic act.  

    It helped to debunk the postwar jew-propaganda that all Germans were loyal to Hitler.

    Von Stauffenber’s last words at his firing squad were:

    “Long live Holy Germany!”
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #254 on: July 09, 2025, 02:28:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 09, 2025, 01:17:05 PM
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    One other point on Kavanagh’s  Catholic pedigree that needs to be considered is his relationship with the pseudo-Revisionist historian David Irving.

    One post stated that Kavanagh had introduced +W to him.  And supposedly HE developed his h0Ɩ0h0αx opinions based on this influence.

    But for Catholics seeking the truth, what was Irving selling us?  His general theme is that Hitler was a good guy.

    But that not true.  The nαzιs were Rothschild funded, and their hidden agenda was to herd European jews to Palestine to claim nationhood later.

    One point that struck me on Irving’s false scholarship, was his attack on Colonel Klaus Von Stauffenberg. 

    Irving labeled Stauffenberg a traitor for his attempt to αssαssιnαtҽ Hitler.

    Stauffenberg was a devout Catholic and blue blood of German military tradition.
    He had sought advice from his Bishop and received his Apostolic blessing before his mission to depose Hitler.

    Even though the mission failed and Hitler executed over 4,000 Germans in vengeance, it remains a selfless, patriotic act. 

    It helped to debunk the postwar jew-propaganda that all Germans were loyal to Hitler.

    Von Stauffenber’s last words at his firing squad were:

    “Long live Holy Germany!”
    Thank you for your comment.

    This issue is not about David Irving or historical side questions. It is about docuмented diocesan warnings, chancellery letters, and the silence of bishops when souls needed clarity.

    Whether Dr. Kavanagh ever met Irving does not change the verified evidence concerning Fr. Moran. Our Lord taught us to judge by fruits. Here the fruits are confusion, silence, and the public arrest of a father who asked for the truth.

    A priest’s ministry is a privilege for souls, not a personal right. When credible accusations arise, charity and prudence demand immediate withdrawal and transparent answers.

    In the end, it is not about old controversies. It is about the salvation of souls and the duty to protect the flock. We owe Our Lord and every child nothing less.


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