Author Topic: Major change in Ridgefield New principle for Padre Pio Academy (Read 21917 times)

JPaul · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2015, 08:31:33 AM »

One should be more concerned with the priests who have been coming out of Winona over the last ten years.

covet truth · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2015, 09:07:22 AM »

Does the SSPX even do conditional ordinations anymore? I'm not aware of any. What if a N.O. priest requested it, would he receive it?

Matthew · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2015, 12:10:02 PM »

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This should not be presented as some new policy that shows evidence of a deal.

We have plenty of priests who were allowed to offer Mass in SSPX chapels and ordained in the new rite. Fr. Hesse, Fr. Gruner, and Fr. Kramer are a few examples. The policy of investigating a pries's ordination and making a determination one way or another has been the SSPX's policy for decades.

On the other hand, what is going on in Ridgefield IS revolutionary. There are real problems in Ridgefield, and the recent exodus from that chapel is proof of that. About 300 parishioners have left. Many teachers and students have quit the school. This priory was in such disarray that Bishop Fellay himself had to fly in and try to hold things together.

But here's the interesting part -- they're not all leaving for the Resistance. About 1/3 of them went to the Indult -- another 1/3 went to the local Sedevacantist chapel. And 1/3 went to the Resistance, currently served by Fr. Zendejas.

Of course, the SSPX firmly blames Fr. Zendejas, even though the problem is with Ridgefield.

Regarding the defectors to the Indult, I can understand their logic. "So you want me to drive all the way to Ridgefield where I'll be hearing the Tridentine Mass of a Novus Ordo-ordained priest? I have an Indult (said by a Novus Ordo-trained and ordained priest) closer to me; I'll go to that one instead, but thank you kindly for your offer."

hollingsworth · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2015, 03:55:55 PM »

Matt:

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On the other hand, what is going on in Ridgefield IS revolutionary. There are real problems in Ridgefield, and the recent exodus from that chapel is proof of that. About 300 parishioners have left. Many teachers and students have quit the school. This priory was in such disarray that Bishop Fellay himself had to fly in and try to hold things together.

But here's the interesting part -- they're not all leaving for the Resistance. About 1/3 of them went to the Indult -- another 1/3 went to the local Sedevacantist chapel. And 1/3 went to the Resistance, currently served by Fr. Zendejas.

Personally, I had no idea this was going on in Ridgefield. But I don't think it is "revolutionary " in the classic definition of the word. A revolution, in short, is defined as a "forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system." What's going on there seems more like 'anarchy,' than revolution. Yes, they have thrown off the religious order of the sspx, but have not agreed in any way about what should replace it. It is more like every man to his own tent.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #9 on:** June 08, 2015, 07:48:29 PM »

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Matt:
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On the other hand, what is going on in Ridgefield IS revolutionary. There are real problems in Ridgefield, and the recent exodus from that chapel is proof of that. About 300 parishioners have left. Many teachers and students have quit the school. This priory was in such disarray that Bishop Fellay himself had to fly in and try to hold things together.

But here's the interesting part -- they're not all leaving for the Resistance. About 1/3 of them went to the Indult -- another 1/3 went to the local Sedevacantist chapel. And 1/3 went to the Resistance, currently served by Fr. Zendejas.

Personally, I had no idea this was going on in Ridgefield. But I don't think it is "revolutionary " in the classic definition of the word. A revolution, in short, is defined as a "forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system." What's going on there seems more like 'anarchy,' than revolution. Yes, they have thrown off the religious order of the sspx, but have not agreed in any way about what should replace it. It is more like every man to his own tent.

Yeah, I had no idea about the situation there. I was only making a point about the conditional ordinations. As far as I know, that policy has not changed and has been the same. The only people who make a big deal about it are those who put the quotations around Father when they speak about Fr. Gruner or Fr. Kramer, who were probably the ones who put all the down thumbs on my comment staing the fact of the matter.