Author Topic: Major change in Ridgefield New principle for Padre Pio Academy (Read 21917 times)

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2015, 02:10:53 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

But here's the interesting part -- they're not all leaving for the Resistance. About 1/3 of them went to the Indult -- another 1/3 went to the local Sedevacantist chapel. And 1/3 went to the Resistance, currently served by Fr. Zendejas.

Of course, the SSPX firmly blames Fr. Zendejas, even though the problem is with Ridgefield.

Regarding the defectors to the Indult, I can understand their logic. "So you want me to drive all the way to Ridgefield where I'll be hearing the Tridentine Mass of a Novus Ordo-ordained priest? I have an Indult (said by a Novus Ordo-trained and ordained priest) closer to me; I'll go to that one instead, but thank you kindly for your offer."

Are you sure the Diocesan priest is NO-ordained? There are still a lot of pre-NO priests around. They are getting old but they are still here. That might explain the people going to the Diocese. But of course given that the SSPX accepts the theoretical validity of the Conciliar sacraments that would certainly work against any claim on the loyality of their followers as you have just pointed out.

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2015, 02:21:14 PM »

I would be curious to know why 1/3 went to the SV chapel. I'm wondering if they could no longer stomach Francis. That's what caused me to leave the SSPX chapel in Woburn, MA and start going to the CMRI chapel in the neighboring town. They had that goofy photo of Francis over the entrance to the SSPX chapel and I felt like it was distracting me with bad thoughts. I'm so happy not to have to say that I "recognize" that guy. Francis does not speak with the voice of my Shepherd. I don't know who that guy is but I know he is not my Shepherd. And to be frank (ha!), he was not the shepherd of anyone at the SSPX chapel either. They "recognized" him but they didn't follow him. Thanks be to Our Lord and Our Lady!

hollingsworth · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2015, 03:41:47 PM »

CM:

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I don't know who that guy is but I know he is not my Shepherd. And to be frank (ha!), he was not the shepherd of anyone at the SSPX chapel either. They "recognized" him but they didn't follow him. Thanks be to Our Lord and Our Lady!

This is the problem,of course. CM is just one voice from among maybe 10s of thousands of traditional Catholics who say in essence: 'This guy is not my Shepherd. We are told to "recognize" him, but he is not my shepherd.'
The good bishop publishes numbers of ECs trying to prop up the "recognition" thesis, but sales are going down. Then the 'I-told-you-so' sedes move in parroting their annoying shibboleths. Folks get irritated and tell them to move off. It is never ending.
At least historically, so we are told, the popes of the Arian period were orthodox Catholics. It was just most of the bishops and priests whom you had to avoid. Now we have popes, bishops and priest alike who have gone off the reservation. They're all rotten.

Marlelar · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2015, 11:13:41 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

On the other hand, what is going on in Ridgefield IS revolutionary. There are real problems in Ridgefield, and the recent exodus from that chapel is proof of that. About 300 parishioners have left. Many teachers and students have quit the school. This priory was in such disarray that Bishop Fellay himself had to fly in and try to hold things together.

What is going on in Ridgefield? Why is it in disarray?

Bartholemew · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2015, 09:42:13 AM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

This should not be presented as some new policy that shows evidence of a deal.

We have plenty of priests who were allowed to offer Mass in SSPX chapels and ordained in the new rite. Fr. Hesse, Fr. Gruner, and Fr. Kramer are a few examples. The policy of investigating a pries's ordination and making a determination one way or another has been the SSPX's policy for decades.

I remember when Father Voigt was up in Syracuse for many years. He was known to everyone in the northeast as the "bad Novus Ordo priest" and everyone went out of their way to never go to any of his Masses. When we asked the SSPX why he hasn't been conditionally ordained, their answer was that they looked into it and his ordination was valid and that we shouldn't worry about it but that never stopped parishioners and others from avoiding him.

Once Father Voigt left the SSPX for the resistance, I heard that the first thing he did was get conditionally ordained and I heard that he had wanted to be conditionally ordained while he was being persecuted as a Novus Ordo priest who was with the Society but that they wouldn't approve it.