Author Topic: Major change in Ridgefield New principle for Padre Pio Academy (Read 21918 times)

Seek the Truth · « **on:** June 07, 2015, 07:29:11 PM »

Just received e-mail below from Msgr Byrnes.

Msgr Byrnes was ordained on November 15, 1986, by Cardinal O'Connor at Saint Patrick's Cathedral in New York City and has been in Ridgefield, CT, for approximately two years. Msgr. Byrnes has not been conditionally ordained since the SSPX has stated that Msgr's ordination was valid. I was personally told by two priests in Ridgefield that there is nothing to question as the SSPX's own investigation into the ordination confirmed that the matter, form, and intent were all valid and that I should not question this.

Why would the SSPX allow a Novus Order trained and ordained priest to be a principal?

Dear Parents,

Last Thursday I received a call from our District Superior Fr. Wegner, informing me that I am to be the principal of St. Padre Pio Academy beginning with the new school year.

Fr. Sulzen has kept me in the loop about the desire for all of you to have a meeting with the principal regarding some concerns you have about the high school program for next year, and I know that there has been some difficulty in getting a meeting date because of vacation schedules and that the date currently set for the meeting is in July, a date later than most would prefer.

Given everyone’s desire to meet as soon as possible, I am proposing having our meeting this Tuesday evening (9 June) at 7:30 PM in Jogues Hall. Please let me know as soon as possible if this will work for you. If the majority cannot make this day, we will stick with the date in July. I realize that this is rather short notice, but I hope this date will work for everyone, or at least most.
I look forward to working with all of you during the coming school year.

God bless,

Msgr. Byrnes

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2015, 07:49:42 PM »

I think it is insane that the SSPX does not conditionally ordain all Novus Ordo priests who come over to the SSPX. I know of people at my chapel (including me) who would walk out if this man came to say Mass there (which may very well happen because sometimes priests from Ridgefield say Mass at my chapel) because of doubts about his ordination. I would guess that this is common. I guess it is more important not to offend Rome than to reassure those many SSPX faithful who have doubts about Novus Ordo orders.

I know that this man is traditional for a Novus Ordo priest but he is still a Novus Ordo priest. He should have to go to seminary for a few years so he could learn all the things they no longer teach in Novus Ordo seminaries and be trained to be a real priest and then conditionally ordained and then become principal.

TKGS · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2015, 07:53:55 PM »

John Joseph Cardinal O’Connor was consecrated as a bishop in the New Rite of Episcopal Consecration in 1979.

I'm have no doubt that Msgr. Byrnes's ordination followed the requirements of matter and form. I also have no doubt that Cardinal O'Connor even had the proper intention.

The only problem is that he was not a validly consecrated bishop when he ordained Byrnes who remains a layman. Does anyone really believe there is not already an agreement between the SSPX and the Conciliar church that just hasn't yet been publicized?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2015, 08:00:57 PM »

He was a principal for many years at another school. Monsignor has experience and he is a Holy Catholic Priest as well.

When I was on a retreat, he was one of our Priests. All the priests, including Monsignor Byrnes did a great job with our retreat. We really learned a lot about our Catholic faith.

We need to pray for our Catholic priests. Our prayers are with Monsignor Byrnes and the priests up in Ridgefield.

You are truly blessed by God to have a Catholic school, retreat house and Catholic Church.
Most of us don't have that.

When you attend that meeting with Monsignor Byrnes, you should all be kind and charitable.
You all should thank God for what you have.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2015, 11:17:21 PM »

This should not be presented as some new policy that shows evidence of a deal.

We have plenty of priests who were allowed to offer Mass in SSPX chapels and ordained in the new rite. Fr. Hesse, Fr. Gruner, and Fr. Kramer are a few examples. The policy of investigating a pries's ordination and making a determination one way or another has been the SSPX's policy for decades.