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Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:40:41 AM »
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  • Dear Fathers and Faithful,

    We have received many responses relating to our recent email regarding our disassociation with Father Raphael. The news has shocked and caused confusion amongst many of the faithful. This is understandable. What hope they had left of having a priest visit (who hasn't compromised on the doctrine and teaching of the Catholic Church) has seemingly been dashed.  We can assure you that we also feel your pain and can relate to the subsequent bewilderment being experienced.
     
    The situation regarding our disassociation with Father Raphael has caused us much heartache. It is never a pleasant task being the bearer of bad news and it grieved us to have to deliver it. It was not a decision based on emotion - it was a decision based on a serious matter. 

    As Father Raphael has confirmed that he will not be coming to Australia (or to any other English-speaking country), it is not necessary for us to reveal any further details regarding this matter to the faithful here in Australia (or in the US, UK or elsewhere).  We wish to protect Father's reputation in as far as it is possible, and if we were to say more on this matter we would be guilty of detraction in these particular circuмstances. We ask for your understanding, and please do not be upset by our decision not to reveal more. We are not angry or resentful towards Father and we continue to pray for him. We ask that you too pray for Father and may God shower him with Our Lord's richest blessings.
     
    As Catholics who won’t attend Masses of priests who compromise the faith (like SSPX, Bishop Williamson’s Fake Resistance and Fr. Pfeiffer’s fake Bishop & more) the reality is we are entering and living a time of the Catacombs, protecting and shielding the faith. We are living in a time of crisis, a time prophesised by Our Lady of Good Success and Our Lady of Fatima.  Despite the severe shortage of uncompromising priests we can take great comfort in knowing we always have Our Lord and Our Holy Mother to turn to and to guide us through these times, along with the Rosary and Scapular. Our Lord will never abandon us; instead he will strengthen us through the Queen of Heaven. 
     
    What an inconceivable blessing for us weak creatures to be able to be united in the trenches fighting for the return of Christ the King and the Immaculate Heart of Mary in these latter days.
     
    In union of prayers

    Yours in JMJ,
    Luke Ross, Coordinator
    Email: luke@houseofross.net
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #1 on: January 16, 2019, 07:43:55 AM »
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  • If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people who leave a cult but continue to take as gospel truth COUNTLESS TENETS propagated by the cult they left.

    "Fake resistance"? What fake resistance? Who told you there was a fake resistance? Why are they fake? Oh, because Fr. Pfeiffer told you so? Why aren't you still with Fr. Pfeiffer if you trust his judgment so much? He also thinks Ambrose Moran the con artist is a bishop, and furthermore is actively working with him. 

    When you wake up to the fact that Hillary is an evil, deep state, literal witch, it behooves one to question some of the things those leftists taught you about Republicans, Trump, etc. 

    Right?

    Isn't that basic logic?

    But apparently leaving a cult doesn't mean all the poison immediately leaves your body. You hold on to parts of it, until you're ready to take those further steps.
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #2 on: January 16, 2019, 07:46:15 AM »
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  • Oh, and here we have another case of,


    "We can't associate at all with Fr. X after what we know now. We can't say more, because that would be detraction. All the best to him!"

    What a bunch of sanctimonious nonsense! So we get to USE OUR IMAGINATIONS huh? I'm sure my imagination will come up with something MUCH worse than Fr. Rafael's actual flaw(s) you allude to.

    Alluding or hinting at impropriety, sin, is EVERY BIT AS BAD as listing off a concrete sin or two that he committed. Both do equal damage to a person's reputation.

    Some people are stupid and just LOVE to fool themselves. I guess it comes from supporting Fr. Pfeiffer for so long, and getting into his way of thinking and modus operandi -- which is heavy on deception.
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #3 on: January 16, 2019, 07:51:56 AM »
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  • Last of all, it is very frustrating that even when these late-term (post-2015) Pfeiffer supporters -- who had to actively ignore evils during their support of Fr. Pfeiffer -- finally wake up, they become Home Aloners rather than go back to the T in the road where they took a wrong turn.

    They just give up, lay there, and wait to die.

    Why not admit you made a mistake? Go back to the point where you made the wrong move, and make the right move! Don't assume that everything up till now was a great move on your part, but since your destination isn't here, you might as well sit there and give up!

    When you make a wrong turn, you fix it. You don't say, "Oh well, I guess I'm not going to get to my destination ever, since I was misled."

    This is nothing other than pride. You don't want to have to admit you were wrong. You don't want to admit you made a grave mistake. You don't want to have to apologize to people who YOU NOW SEE were in the right all along: Bp. Zendejas, Bp. Williamson, many on CathInfo, etc.
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #4 on: January 16, 2019, 09:02:15 AM »
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  • Matthew you are spot on!  I know I have to focus my mind on not thinking horrible things about Fr. Raphael since they don't want to cause "detraction".  They already have cause it by saying as little as they have.  Their logic has never been sound and now they are just going into a darker place because no one on this earth could possibly be right? Ridiculous! Maybe these types are better staying home in their own prideful states since really all they do is cause problems for everyone else who has the guts to continue this fight on the front lines.   :facepalm: 


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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #5 on: January 16, 2019, 12:40:51 PM »
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  • Agree, their logic is supremely flawed.  The have a "martyr mentality" which they use to interpret every situation as being a "unique cross" from God (only for them), so that their pride prevents them from being a "normal Trad" and going to mass ANYWHERE where a valid mass is available...(gasp) even if they don't like the priest. 

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    What hope they had left of having a priest visit (who hasn't compromised on the doctrine and teaching of the Catholic Church) has seemingly been dashed. 

    They've made themselves an authority on doctrine, so they can judge all priests and determine their "worthyness".  So stupid.

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    We wish to protect Father's reputation in as far as it is possible, and if we were to say more on this matter we would be guilty of detraction in these particular circuмstances.

    Detraction is the sin of revealing another person's real faults to a third person without a valid reason, thereby lessening the reputation of that person.

    They don't even know what detraction is.  Explaining why a priest left can be done without detraction and if there's a valid reason to reveal bad details, then it's not a sin!  Public sins can be made public to anyone!  If this priest was asked to leave, and you don't tell people why, then some may follow him or continue to support him (when he shouldn't be followed or supported!).  Obviously those who are making decisions don't have much common sense.



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    As Catholics who won’t attend Masses of priests who compromise the faith (like SSPX, Bishop Williamson’s Fake Resistance and Fr. Pfeiffer’s fake Bishop & more) the reality is we are entering and living a time of the Catacombs, protecting and shielding the faith. 

    Woe to those who "stay at home" rather than go to a valid mass by a valid priest.  How many graces are they missing?  How much scandal are they causing to their families?  What answer will they have to God at the last judgement?



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    What an inconceivable blessing for us weak creatures to be able to be united in the trenches fighting for the return of Christ the King and the Immaculate Heart of Mary in these latter days.

    In what way are they "fighting in the trenches"?  By anathematizing 99% of Trads?  Bizzare, bizzare thought process.  God have mercy on these people.

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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #6 on: January 16, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
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  • I may be all wrong on this point but the little I know it sounds like Donatism all over.

    Donatists argued that Christian clergy must be faultless for their ministry to be effective and their prayers and sacraments to be valid.
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #7 on: January 16, 2019, 01:53:17 PM »
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  • I may be all wrong on this point but the little I know it sounds like Donatism all over.

    Donatists argued that Christian clergy must be faultless for their ministry to be effective and their prayers and sacraments to be valid.
    At least you admit you might be wrong.
    Here is the definition of Donatism:


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    By denying the intrinsic efficacy of the sacraments the Donatists claimed the sacraments could be celebrated validly only by those in the state of grace. They required the re-baptism of any Catholic who came over to their sect.

    Donatists had the outward forms of Catholicism, including bishops, priests, and deacons, Mass, and the veneration of the relics of martyrs. The heresy of Donatism lay not primarily in the denial of particular Catholic doctrines but in the assertion that only "sinless" men could administer the sacraments validly. The schism was effected by the rejection of the lawful authority of validly-elected Catholic bishops and culminated in illicit but valid ordinations of schismatic bishops, priests, and deacons.

    No one that I know of is saying that Fr. Pfeiffer's Masses are invalid. The problem is that we are human beings, and subject to be affected by things like propaganda, errors, etc. It's not about Fr. Pfeiffer's state of soul or personal sins, but rather his public sins which affect his teaching of the Faith itself.

    We are not saying "avoid Fr. Pfeiffer's Masses because he's a sinner" we're saying avoid his Masses because he holds various errors, teaches distortions and propaganda in lieu of doctrine (according as it suits his cause), and is a scandal with his behavior towards other priests and bishops, which might actually cause YOU to sin by doing and saying things against these priests. So he is literally a cause of scandal or a stumbling-block. Not to mention his close association with a man like Pablo who takes scandal to a whole new level. It is not worth immersing oneself in such a milieu, not even for the Mass. The ends don't justify the means.

    And then there's the issue of his promoting one Ambrose Moran, an evident con artist who masquerades as a Bishop. Since when are Traditional Catholics apathetic about the validity of one's sacraments? Isn't "seeking valid sacraments" one of the main reasons the Traditional Movement exists?

    Say a man was travelling, and couldn't find a Tridentine Mass to attend on Sunday. What if a prostitute offered to tell him where you could find a valid Tridentine Mass, if he used her services once? (Let's assume he knows psychological tricks and can tell by her eyes, body language, etc. that she's telling the truth that she knows where a Tridentine Mass can be found.) Would the ends (attending Mass) be enough to justify fornication with a prostitute? I think not.
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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #8 on: January 16, 2019, 04:30:36 PM »
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  • No one that I know of is saying that Fr. Pfeiffer's Masses are invalid, but he is...a cause of scandal or a stumbling-block. Not to mention his close association with a man like Pablo who takes scandal to a whole new level. It is not worth immersing oneself in such a milieu, not even for the Mass. The ends don't justify the means.
    I came to this conclusion in 2014.  I won't subject myself to a 65ish year old man who pretends he's from another country, who claims Catholicism despite every indication that he's not, who orders people around as if they were his slaves, who mocks, and publicly insults a priest's elderly parents in their own home, and who three times made highly inappropriate suggestive comments, told jokes of a sɛҳuąƖ nature and was twice found going through my private possessions in my private living quarters!  He also barged in, ostensibly to look for something, at10:30 PM and tried to stay for a casual conversation.  At the time, I was wearing a nightgown!

    Both priests in residence made excuses for him when I told them about it.  One of them accused me of getting upset over nothing!  While I know the priests are validly ordained, and that the Mass itself is valid, I'm afraid for my personal safety and purity.  I do not want to tempt Our Lord by possibly having to resort to self-defense because the priests won't do their duty.  It's a pathetic state of affairs when the only person willing to stand up to him is a 61 year old single woman!  

    I haven't been back.


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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 12:30:24 PM »
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  • If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people who leave a cult but continue to take as gospel truth COUNTLESS TENETS propagated by the cult they left.


    But apparently leaving a cult doesn't mean all the poison immediately leaves your body. You hold on to parts of it, until you're ready to take those further steps.
    I am not surprised, as there must have been something wrong with these cult followers before they joined the cult. The fact that they followed and staid with the cult for these past years proves there is something deeply wrong within them that cannot just go away so easily.

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    Re: Luke Ross - Goodbye Frs. Pfeiffer, Rafael - hello Home Alone
    « Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 02:20:17 PM »
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  • I am not surprised, as there must have been something wrong with these cult followers before they joined the cult. The fact that they followed and staid with the cult for these past years proves there is something deeply wrong within them that cannot just go away so easily.
    To be clear, I do not say these cult followers are bad, sinful or otherwise malicious; but there is something defective in either their use of reason, behavior, or mental faculties. So no offence to any cult followers out there. ;D