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Lourdes Shrine Flooded after John Paul II Relic Exposed for Veneration. Coincidence?





See:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57536616/pilgrims-evacuated-from-flood-threatened-lourdes/

A RELIC OF JOHN PAUL II WILL BE TAKEN TO LOURDES

Vatican City, 19 October 2012 (VIS) - A relic of Blessed John Paul II will be transported to the French shrine of Lourdes during a pilgrimage organised by UNITALSI (Italian National Union for Transport of the Sick to Lourdes and International Shrines). The pilgrimage is to take place from 21 to 27 October.
Archbishop Zygmunt Zimowski, president of the Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care, has granted UNITALSI permission to take a reliquary containing blood of John Paul II, so that it can be seen and venerated by pilgrims from all over the world.
Speaking on Vatican Radio Salvatore Pagliuccia, president of UNITALSI, noted that we currently are in the Year of Faith, and the Synod of Bishops is meeting to examine the question of new evangelisation, "a theme very close to John Paul II's heart". That Pope's "influence is still felt in the Church and among the faithful", he said. Thus, "the presence of the reliquary of the blessed on the pilgrimage is a very significant sign, because it represents the presence of his ideas and his sentiments, above all the presence of the love which, as man and as pastor, he gave to people, to the faithful, and in particular to the sick and those with disabilities".
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Now, the "sign" from heaven:
 

Huge flood in Lourdes have made evacuation of pilgrims necessary at the precise time the relics are to trave therein for their benefit!
 
Hundreds evacuated as floods swamp Lourdes
Sun, 21 October 2012
LOURDES, France — Floods caused by days of non-stop rain in southwest France caused the closure of most of the Catholic sanctuary of Lourdes yesterday and the evacuation of hundreds of pilgrims, local authorities said. Buses ferried guests from hotels in the lower town to a conference centre and a sports complex as officials said the sites would stay closed for several days.
Two campsites were also evacuated and several roads closed around Lourdes, where Catholics believe the Virgin Mary appeared to peasant girl Bernadette Soubirous in a grotto in 1858, as the river Gave de Pau burst its banks. The water was around one metre deep in front of the grotto and 80 centimetres in the avenue du Paradis, where most of the hotels for pilgrims are located, after what officials said was the worst flooding in 25 years.
Only the massive basilica, built on higher ground, was still accessible. "The space in front of the grotto is entirely covered with water, the altar is under water," Thierry Castillo, the custodian of the sanctuaries, said. "There are torrents of mud," he said, predicting major damage which would be costly to repair. Castillo singled out the hydroelectric plant which provides power to the sanctuaries, which was badly damaged by floating tree trunks.
The Gave de Pau was three metres (10 feet) above its usual level Saturday morning and still rising, as weather forecasters predicted that the rain that has been falling non-stop since Thursday would continue until Sunday. A heavy downpour is forecast for Saturday evening and night. In the same region 3,500 homes were still without electricity after strong winds Thursday and Friday brought down power lines "I've seen nothing like it in 40 years," said hotel-owner Pierre Barrere as he watched the pilgrims being evacuated.
Catherine Brun from Grenoble in southeast France was told to leave at 8:30 a.m. (0630GMT). She said she had just had time to take her car from the garage before the water suddenly rose. Rescuers evacuated her mother, who is frail, in a boat some hours later. The two women were taken to another hotel. Lourdes attracted more than six million visitors last year. The Catholic church recognises 68 miracles linked to it and many disabled or sick people go there to pray for a cure. —
 






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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 06:36:10 PM »
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  • Well if that's not a sign I don't know what is.  :smirk:


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    « Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 06:59:24 PM »
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    Vatican City, 19 October 2012 (VIS) - A relic of Blessed John Paul II will be transported to the French shrine of Lourdes during a pilgrimage organised by UNITALSI (Italian National Union for Transport of the Sick to Lourdes and International Shrines). The pilgrimage is to take place from 21 to 27 October.



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    The Gave de Pau was three metres (10 feet) above its usual level Saturday (October 20) morning and still rising, as weather forecasters predicted that the rain that has been falling non-stop since Thursday (October 18)would continue until Sunday (October 21).



    It looks like they were blocked by God from altogether exposing the relic for veneration, for now.  

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    « Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 08:05:34 PM »
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    "Torrents of mud" seems to say a lot.
     :shocked:

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    « Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 02:15:15 AM »
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  • Just before the SSPX's pilgrimage, next week-end !


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    « Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 03:17:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: Remacle
    Just before the SSPX's pilgrimage, next week-end !


    That says a lot, too!

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    « Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 04:07:43 AM »
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  • Just to highlight how some on IA are laughing at this thread. I have made no comment on the thread but could Patricius outline what he means by "fruitcakery"?




    Patricius.
    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11180
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    The same people who, having the warmest October 21st on record, believe they are at the start of the Great Chastisement, rather than grateful for the better weather. Fruitcakery at its finest.

    In contrast, we in England are bloody freezing. Perhaps they're being chastised and we aint?

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    « Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 04:49:00 AM »
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  • Maybe a link here with Bp. W's chastisement theories ......


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    « Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 06:17:30 AM »
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    Well if that's not a sign I don't know what is.  :smirk:


    True that!

    Wonder is this news is posted on the likes of FE or CAF - it might interesting to hear what the NOers have to say about it.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 08:36:20 AM »
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  • This is even on Angelqueen with a direct link to CI.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 10:09:04 AM »
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  • Do we really need a sign from Heaven to alert us to the fact that something is "off" about JPII?


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    « Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 10:16:35 AM »
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    Do we really need a sign from Heaven to alert us to the fact that something is "off" about JPII?

    Indeed not, if with "we" you mean us, meaning a hand-full of tradcats.
    But the other 1,199,900,000 Newchurch Catholics do need it, maybe?

    Bowler, thank your for this thread, which underlines very, very interesting coherences.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 10:31:22 AM »
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    The same people who, having the warmest October 21st on record, believe they are at the start of the Great Chastisement, rather than grateful for the better weather. Fruitcakery at its finest.

    In contrast, we in England are bloody freezing. Perhaps they're being chastised and we aint?


    This seems to demonstrate complacency and intellectual laziness.  The whole point is that the general trend of complete abnormality and extreme swings in the weather for the past several years -- but especially this year -- is evidence of Our Lord's creation being out of balance.  Since God is the creator and perpetual sustainer of all creation, this lack of predictability is obviously a chastisement.  If we take these signs -- and signs they certainly are -- with the trajectory and pace of current events globally, what with the imminent collapse of the entire international financial system and the civil conflict and hardship that will ensue (not to mention the wars !), it seems to not even be a theory that God is angry with the world and that in His anger He is making the weather erratic; rather, this is clearly happening and one should take notice of it.  I wonder, do those who consider belief in signs in the weather to be lunacy or irrational not believe in Divine Providence, and instead believe in the erroneous and non-Catholic idea that the universe is mechanical and governed by immutable general laws ?

    As for the heat being "nice weather," Patricius must not know that North America just suffered one of the worst droughts of the past one hundred years.  Last year was bad in Texas and Louisiana, but this year was worse and throughout the central portion of the continent.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 10:43:04 AM »
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  • Wow! That's two miracles! The first one was when JPII appeared in the fires of... errr... heaven!

    "Let us thank God for having called us to His holy faith. It is a great gift, and the number of those who thank God for it is small."
    -- St. Alphonsus de Liguori

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    « Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 10:57:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: PereJoseph
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    The same people who, having the warmest October 21st on record, believe they are at the start of the Great Chastisement, rather than grateful for the better weather. Fruitcakery at its finest.

    In contrast, we in England are bloody freezing. Perhaps they're being chastised and we aint?


    This seems to demonstrate complacency and intellectual laziness.  The whole point is that the general trend of complete abnormality and extreme swings in the weather for the past several years -- but especially this year -- is evidence of Our Lord's creation being out of balance.  Since God is the creator and perpetual sustainer of all creation, this lack of predictability is obviously a chastisement.  If we take these signs -- and signs they certainly are -- with the trajectory and pace of current events globally, what with the imminent collapse of the entire international financial system and the civil conflict and hardship that will ensue (not to mention the wars !), it seems to not even be a theory that God is angry with the world and that in His anger He is making the weather erratic; rather, this is clearly happening and one should take notice of it.  I wonder, do those who consider belief in signs in the weather to be lunacy or irrational not believe in Divine Providence, and instead believe in the erroneous and non-Catholic idea that the universe is mechanical and governed by immutable general laws ?

    As for the heat being "nice weather," Patricius must not know that North America just suffered one of the worst droughts of the past one hundred years.  Last year was bad in Texas and Louisiana, but this year was worse and throughout the central portion of the continent.


    It's all just "mother nature" until it ain't - then it's cries of "oh my god" and "why did God let this happen?"
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse