Author Topic: LETTER TO PRIESTS AND FAITHFUL FATHER JOSEPH PFEIFFER (Read 5455 times)

1917 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:55:14 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

Don't shoot the messenger. I like to copy things for posterity.

Quote from: Francisco
And this is what the SSPX theologian Francois Laisney has just written:

http://www.sspxasia.com/Pseudo_anti_liberal_illusion.pdf

DISTINCTION: SUBMISSION TO THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER
Where is the problem then? It comes from the fact that many of those who possess authority in the Church today are infected by liberalism to diverse degrees. This neither Bishop Fellay nor any priest of the SSPX denies. But, while Bishop Fellay and the faithful priests of the SSPX, following the example of Archbishop Lefebvre, make the distinction between being subject to the successor of Peter as successor of Peter and not as liberal, nay, while resisting his liberalism, those who oppose Bishop Fellay seems to be viscerally unable to make such distinction and persevere in their ignorance of the teaching of St Augustine against the Donatists: in the Catholic Church communion with the bad ones does not harm the good ones so long as they do not consent to their evilness. The words bad ones translate the Latin mali. Put liberals in place of bad ones, since liberalism is bad, and the principle of St Augustine is exactly the position of Bishop Fellay and the refutation of those who oppose him: in the Catholic Church, communion with the liberals does not harm the good ones so long as they do not consent with their liberalism.

Thanks for posting MaterD!!!

Liberals in the Catholic Church DO harm the "good ones", otherwise why bother setting up the SSPX in the first place if not to get away from the "bad ones" ... and thereafter a move to the new Resistance with the "bad ones" now being the liberal minded within the SSPX... Thought it does make difficult reading, or maybe it's just me?! :sign-surrender:

Telesphorus · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:41:59 AM »

The gist of all these arguments comes down to:

"We're not liberal because the conciliar Church actually is the "disfigured" Catholic Church after all, and those who oppose us must be sedes or schismatics"

"We're not liberal (just ignore all the double-speak) you're liberal! And we have authority.

Because we said so!

This is the neo-SSPX, behind its flood of verbiage.

A group whose leadership is in cahoots with GREC and the Zionist.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:46:17 AM »

The NSSPX seems to believe they can avoid being infected with Liberalism, when they are blind to the fact that they are already so! +Williamson was wise to tell us: Stay away from the Liberals! Be respectful, charitable, etc. to them, but keep your distance from them as they will influence you to their ideas!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:48:32 AM »

Quote from: Father Laisney

the teaching of St Augustine against the Donatists: in the Catholic Church communion with the bad ones does not harm the good ones so long as they do not consent to their evilness.

One cannot be in communion with heretics. That has nothing to do with Donatism.

Quote from: Archbishop Lefebvre

Therefore, is it necessary to leave the official Church? To some extent, yes, obviously.

The whole book of Mr. Madiran "The Heresy of the Twentieth Century" is the story of the heresy of the bishops.

It is therefore necessary to leave the bishops’ environment, if you do not want to lose the soul.

But that's not enough, as it is in Rome where the heresy is settled. If the bishops are heretics (even without taking this term in his canonical sense and consequences) is not without the influence of Rome.

If we move away from these people, is quite the same way as people with AIDS. There is no desire to catch it. Now, they have spiritual AIDS, infectious diseases. If you want to save your health, you need not to go with them.

1531 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2013, 12:59:13 PM »

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"Don't shoot the messenger. I like to copy things for posterity."

So sorry, MaterDominici, I put a 'negative' in error, I meant it to be a 'negative' against Fr. Laisney's long diatribe.