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Offline BrJoseph

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Letter to John Vennari
« on: October 09, 2013, 02:57:27 PM »
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  • Dear John,

    Despite my "lack of interest in CFN", I continue to read and was impressed that you published, in the current issue, the articles by John Salza and Dr C.

    On the last page, you ask the question What do we want to read?

    As previously commented, I want to see articles about the Resistance, what they are resisting, why are other priests staying inside, and how the SSPX leader has changed from the position outlined in the article by Dr C., how Resistance advocates are faring without regular Mass, etc.

    Maybe if enough people ask … ?

    Br Joseph


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    « Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 03:30:51 PM »
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  • I have a complete "lack of interest" in CFN and John Vennari. Did he ever explain this? I was never a subscriber to his newspaper but wouldn't after his comments below.
    http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page61/page61.html
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    Bishop Williamson Expelled from the SSPX

    By John Vennari

    October 24: It is confirmed from Menzingen today that Bishop Richard Williamson has been expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X. The news fills me with great sadness.


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    Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 04:01:18 PM »
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  • John Vennari is not interested in the Resistance, so I am not interested in his work.

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    Letter to John Vennari
    « Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 01:33:58 AM »
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  • I think JV is quite a talented writer and speaker with a good following. That said, it has been my experience that he will not cross that (invisible) line of calling a spade a spade when it comes to Pope Francis and the crisis within the SSPX. That is precisely why I have stopped taking him seriously. He has shown that he has his limits, his loyalties, and his comfort zones--before which the inconvenient truth takes a back seat. His loss; not ours.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 08:53:56 AM »
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  • I think as a journalist, and as a serious Traditional Catholic "News" paper, CFN lost all credibility when they did not at least report on the crisis in the SSPX, ousting of + Williamson, formation of a Resistance, and the Resistance Summit helpd in VA.  For a publication that prides itself on reporting on the goings on in Catholic tradition, they purposely decided to ignore this "Scoop".  

    It is obvious the Vennari has certain loyalties to + Fellay and the SSPX.  When +Refan in Brazil was carrying on with the modernists CFN was shouting the info on the front page.  When +Fellay does almost the same thing, the headlines are silent.

    I'm not saying that a journalist should necessarily take sides, but I do believe that they should give a true and unbiased report of the news from all perspectives.

    CFN dropped the ball.  They ignore key issues confronting and involving Catholic Tradition.  For this they are unreliable as a true news source.  Not worth the price of a subscription.

    As a caveat, Mr. Vennari does try to counter some of the nonsense produced by Menzingen by printing articles quoting the Archbishop that clearly contradict article by +Fellay but he refuses to come straight out and say:

    "Fellay and Menzingen Contradict their Holy Founder"
    Now that's an honest headline!

    Or how about "Society Priest Ousted for Preaching the words of Archbishop Lefebvre at Ordination Ceremony!"  or perhaps "SSPX priest for 20 Years Ordered to do Penance and Reparation in a Monastery for Preaching the Words of Archbishop Lefebvre". or how about "Over 100 priests flee from the SSPX"?
    Once CFN and John Vennari decided to ignore key issues in the world of Catholic Tradition it lost all credibility as true Traditional Catholic news source.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 10:11:34 AM »
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  • Ekim, now THAT last post of yours is a good open letter to Mr. Vennari and I hope he reads it.  It can be said the two competing publications, Catholic Family News and The Remnant both have ceased to be come newspapers in the sense of the word.  They each have a bias and given the competition for advertising dollars and subscription numbers, each appears to be trying to appeal to their "base" to keep what they have and not stir up anyone.  Tragically, though, in doing so, they are contributing to the "boiling of the frog".  Isn't it true also that in such purposeful avoidance of publishing the "rest of the story", they attempt to control their destiny, snatching it out of God's hands and His Divine Providence.  Oh how I believe God would bless CFN to boldly publish the whole truth objectively.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 11:56:16 AM »
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  • Why would anyone shy away from calling pope Francis a heretic? It's much nicer than what he actually is: a condemned apostate.  Sorry if it offends, but just by reading his own words, it's like pope St. Pius X is writing pascendi about Francis, in real time. Or, that Francis is using the condemnations in pascendi as his scripts for interviews...that's my $.02.
    Matthew 6:34
    " Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof."

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    « Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 12:14:39 PM »
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  • Nickolas,  I did e-mail Mr. Vennari about a year ago when these things were just breaking to ask why he wasn't covering them.  He said CFN has never covered internal squables in Traditonal Catholic organizations.  I found this to be untrue.  They had no problems reporting about the Redemtorists in Scottland or about the Priests in Brazil.

    Michael Matt (The Remnant) never replied to several e-mails.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 12:18:41 PM »
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    CFN lost all credibility when they did not at least report on the crisis in the SSPX, ousting of + Williamson,


    With respect the newspaper did report on it.

    http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page61/page61.html

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    Bishop Williamson Expelled from the SSPX

    By John Vennari

    October 24: It is confirmed from Menzingen today that Bishop Richard Williamson has been expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X. The news fills me with great sadness.

    This break has been coming for some time; it is one of those tragic events one sees in advance yet is powerless to prevent.

    I never forget a kindness, and Bishop Williamson had been good to me over the years. Though we have not communicated as often since his departure from Winona in 2003, I still owe him a debt of gratitude. In the mid 1990s, in highly unusual circuмstances, I was able to study at-a-distance for the priesthood for two years through the Winona seminary, which Bishop Williamson made possible. Though I did not follow through to the priesthood, the formation I received was invaluable.

    I am also grateful for him introducing Dr. David Allen White to us all, since we learned about Dr. White through his magnificent lectures on Shakespeare at Winona
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    The root cause of this latest discord, of course, is the crisis in the Church caused by the Second Vatican Council, which has been a source of division even among good men.

    It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. Further, I have been in the traditionalist movement for 32 years and have seen how ugly these fights can become. Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.


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    « Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 12:21:20 PM »
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  • John Vennari

    http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page61/page61.html
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    Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.


    Which specific words and actions caused John Vennari to scratch his head and why was the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" interview a "mistake"?

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    « Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 12:41:07 PM »
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  • It was a mistake because it caused John to divide his loyalties?


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    « Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 01:03:10 PM »
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  • There were a few like 'New Templar' in the Irish SSPX District, who regarded Bishop Williamson as "imprudent" as regards the big lie.  As it happens 'New Templar' from an Indult background is pro Fellay and pro agreement. Is he a Zionist? Does he believe in the myth of there being gas chambers? I have no idea. The evidence is against Jєωs having being gassed. This is reality. Truth.


    To return to discuss JV, Bishop Williamson is the only one of the four Bishops, who has remained faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre. That is why I find it interesting that JV had to scratch his head. About what? Bishop Williamson is the true SSPX.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 01:25:33 PM »
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  • I'm just curious "Br. Joseph" if you actually sent this to John Vennari's/CFN's email directly (you know how you'd actually communicate with him besides writing snail mail or calling), or if you're just being a troll and posting it as an open letter on a forum?

    Instead of just tooling around online with nothing better to do, John Vennari does great work in spreading Tradition and Our Lady of Fatima's message in close collaboration with Fr. Nicholas Gruner and other traditional journalists. I'm sure he doesn't have much time to be bothered looking around other sites and forums.


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    « Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 01:30:54 PM »
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  • Quote from: obediens
    I'm just curious "Br. Joseph" if you actually sent this to John Vennari's/CFN's email directly (you know how you'd actually communicate with him besides writing snail mail or calling), or if you're just being a troll and posting it as an open letter on a forum?

    Instead of just tooling around online with nothing better to do, John Vennari does great work in spreading Tradition and Our Lady of Fatima's message in close collaboration with Fr. Nicholas Gruner and other traditional journalists. I'm sure he doesn't have much time to be bothered looking around other sites and forums.



    Not every Traditionalist Catholic is a fan of Fr Gruner. The Grunerite Fatimism has a following in Co.Cork but I stay clear of the Grunerite message. The Fatima centre in Co. Cork would have you believe outside of Fr Gruner there is no salvation.  Traditional Catholicism is much broader than Gruneritism.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 01:38:52 PM »
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  • Yes, I did communicate directly with John. He is a great guy and does good work. I cannot believe that he does not see what is going on. However, I do wish he would deal with it as a newsman and report the news.

    I can assure you that I am not a troll.

    The "Brother" in my name comes from the Third Order of St Francis.

    For more evidence that I am not a troll, see http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/