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Letter of Appeal to the Faithful of the Resistance
« on: June 21, 2013, 07:04:14 AM »
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  • June 21, 2013

    Dear Faithful of the Resistance,

    It has been over a year now since a resistance movement started against the new direction of the SSPX leadership.  We've witnessed this past year the infamous CNS interviews of Bishop Fellay, the postponing of ordinations of those within religious communities, the awful six conditions of the 2012 SSPX General Chapter, the expulsion from the SSPX of Bishop Williamson and priests faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre, the persecution of the faithful by denying them the sacraments, and most recently the publication of a betrayal of the Catholic Faith, that is, the Doctrinal Declaration of Bishop Fellay dated April 15, 2012.  And despite all this, what have we heard the SSPX priests who have been especially formed to combat Liberalism and Modernism?  Next to nothing!  All but one SSPX bishop (Bishop Williamson) and a handful of SSPX priests have had the fortitude to stick their necks out for the sake of souls - Frs. Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, Ortiz, Girouard - to name a few.  Some of the priests who did originally speak out were immediately silenced and have unfortunately remained silent.

    In response to these outrages coming from the SSPX leadership, many of us had decided a while ago to leave the SSPX for good.  Others made that decision more recently.  However, we now firmly believe that enough has transpired for those supportive of the Resistance to make an exit from their SSPX chapels.  It should be clear to us by now that the public fight for the Faith in the SSPX bishops and priests has dissipated.  They are no longer doing what the Church has always done, that is, publicly condemn error no matter who is promoting it.  We thought that this silence from the SSPX priests would not be possible given their formation, but the facts over the past year speak for themselves.  We have painfully learned that it was easy for them to condemn error when those who were promoting it were at a distance and thereby have had very little impact on their daily lives.  But valor is tested when one's own welfare is at stake.  And it is sad to say that most SSPX priests have not shown the necessary fortitude when the fight for the Glory of God and salvation of souls presented itself in their own backyard.  

    Therefore, in the wake of this realization, we make an appeal to you to stop supporting, morally and financially, the neo-SSPX and its priests.  This includes abandoning the SSPX chapels for Mass.  We know it is a very difficult decision; we've had to go through the same.  The lack of peace is the soul’s great enemy, but we are now at peace because our actions are fully consonant with our beliefs.  The Faith comes first; everything else follows.  Remember that Joan of Arc was prohibited from receiving the sacraments; nonetheless, she persisted in her belief to the point of being burnt at the stake.  Who after her death was proclaimed a saint?  We ask, instead, that you place your full support behind those who now carry the torch of Archbishop Lefebvre and most importantly, Catholic Tradition.  This may then encourage more priests to come and join the Resistance.

    Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,

    Stephen Camidge
    Alena Camidge
    Tony La Rosa
    Michal Leonczuk
    Marzena Leonczuk
    Alicia Rusche
    James Saul
    Christine Saul
    Anthony Wahl
    Shawny Wahl

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    Letter of Appeal to the Faithful of the Resistance
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 07:21:42 AM »
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  • Can't throw the baby out with the bath water.  Our Lord is still present, body, blood, soul and divinity at our local chapel of the SSPX.  The priest does not, nor has he ever, spoken heresy.  He has never promoted or encouraged any flavor of modernism.  I can find no justification to deny Our Lord His Sunday obligation.  

    This is not the fight between the Novus Ordo Mass and the Tridentine Mass, as it was after Vatican II.  At that time Catholics were duty bound to abandon that masonic service because it was a danger to the faith.  As +Williamson said, as well as the priests of the resistance, there are still many, many good priests in the SSPX.  Granted the caution light should be blinking....BLINK! BLINK! BLINK! but the evacuation light has not yet been lit!

    Granted, if your chapel is different then precautions must be taken.  But the time for a blanket abandonment of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament has not come.  To do so now would put a smile on Satan face...no doubt!


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    « Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 08:13:21 AM »
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  • I agree with Ekim.  Where there is the preaching of heresy, you cannot stay.  But to say we should leave an SSPX Mass centre regardless is blind.

    We are fortunate to have good Priests, who condemn any agreement with Rome, modernism, VII, collegiality, religious freedom, etc.  Why should we not support them?  They have not failed us.  They do not deserve desertion.

    Should that change, then we must think again.

    CathInfo can be a good source of information and for that, I thank you.

    A pity some can lack charity...

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    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 09:02:06 AM »
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  • I also must disagree with the suggestion in the OP. The choice to remain away from one's local SSPX chapel is personal. I place no judgement on those who wish to remain home; some chapels are seeing tougher battles taking place than at others. But with the wildfires taking place in Colorado, do I abandon my home in California? No. I wait, and watch. And take what comfort I have in my own home. Everyone's situation is unique and can be predicated on the priest they have assigned to their specific chapel.

    Might there be a point where we should all leave? I can easily imagine one, and one not too distant from now. But that point has not come. God be with those of the OP.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 09:47:39 AM »
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  • I must agree with the previous three posters.

    I do think that refraining from giving money to Neo-SSPX parishes is a good idea, since some of that money goes to Fr. Rostand, and another percentage goes to Menzingen. However, I don't object to those who still attend a Society Mass to receive the Sacraments, so long as doing so isn't a danger to one's Faith (such as if the chapel were getting too liberal).


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    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 09:54:04 AM »
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    The choice to remain away from one's local SSPX chapel is personal. I place no judgement on those who wish to remain home; some chapels are seeing tougher battles taking place than at others. But with the wildfires taking place in Colorado, do I abandon my home in California? No. I wait, and watch. And take what comfort I have in my own home. Everyone's situation is unique and can be predicated on the priest they have assigned to their specific chapel.


    A necessary comment given the attack from folk on Ignis Ardens and on this forum. Belittling those who have taken a decision to leave Society chapels is self defeating.

    I conceded earlier on another thread there is no interest in my idea of hiring a hall. That idea is at an end. Whilst dismayed and betrayed by Bishop Fellay and Menzingen, the Irish laity will remain in their chapels.  There never really was a mood to leave chapels and the alternative is the Indult. A stark reality really.


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    « Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 10:11:30 AM »
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    we make an appeal to you to stop supporting, morally and financially, the neo-SSPX and its priests


    Whilst I would always morally support the priests of the neo SSPX by prayer or sending them the truth of their pious union, I wouldn't give the SSPX money.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 10:41:05 AM »
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  • From someone who had her church hijacked by the Neo-SSPX when Father Hector Bolduc died....

    I've already abandoned going to my Church because of the blatant fabrications by Fr. Rostand, telling us that the missal that was being used was Fr. Bolduc's missal, when it wasn't and we knew this fact, (along with the assistance in the lie of Fr. Duverger).

    Fr. Themann is the "parish priest" over there. I cannot subject my mind to someone who is part of the blatant perpetuated lie that the "SSPX has not changed, nothing is different," mentality. It will not work, and it is unfair to my sanity.

    It is curious how much time has been spent on my family, trying to get us to come back. Thank God my parents and the siblings I have that are still Catholic, have the same sensibilities.

    It is absolutely IMPRUDENT for my family to continue going to Mass at Saint Michael's. I would like to keep my Catholic Faith, pure and undefiled, and if I am going to subject myself to the constant barrage of lies Sunday after Sunday, there will be negative consequences.

    I am trying to find somewhere closeby where I can go to Mass that will not endanger my Faith. Until I do, I "Keep Holy the Sabbath" as God commanded us to do.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 01:37:25 PM »
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  • By all means continue to go but make sure the priests know that you support the Resistance.  The pastor at our local SSPX chapel knows our online ID's and knows we attend Resistance Masses.  Why hide it?

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    « Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 02:18:32 PM »
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    From someone who had her church hijacked by the Neo-SSPX when Father Hector Bolduc died....

    I've already abandoned going to my Church because of the blatant fabrications by Fr. Rostand,


    It is the likes of this that would put me off attending a SSPX chapel. SSPX priests were telling blatant lies from the pulpit yet some people had cheek to say I and others were big troublemakers.

    Until the recent Bishop Williamson conference in Ireland, many SSPX folk had their heads in the sand. They couldn't believe Bishop Fellay has sold out.  The SSPX have been softening their flock for several years.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 02:25:58 PM »
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    Fr. Themann is the "parish priest" over there. I cannot subject my mind to someone who is part of the blatant perpetuated lie that the "SSPX has not changed, nothing is different," mentality. It will not work, and it is unfair to my sanity.


    Well stated. It was asked before but why the need to try  present people as unstable or mentally unwell. I thought it a disgusting tactic.



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    « Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 02:35:17 PM »
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  • .

    If you don't mind, I'd like to make a few suggestions, in blue:

    Quote from: Ecclesia Militans
    June 21, 2013

    Dear Faithful of the Resistance,

    It has been over a year now since a resistance movement started against the new direction of the SSPX leadership.  We've witnessed this past year the infamous CNS interviews of Bishop Fellay, the postponing of ordinations of those within religious communities, the awful six conditions of the 2012 SSPX General Chapter, the expulsion from the SSPX of Bishop Williamson and priests faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre, the persecution of the faithful by denying them the sacraments, the exposure of the longstanding involvement of the Society leadership with GREC, 'Krahgate' and the commercializing/re-branding project started by Fr. Wegner, and most recently, the publication of a betrayal of the Catholic Faith, that is, the Doctrinal Declaration of Bishop Fellay dated April 15, 2012 (the AFD).  And despite all this, what have we heard from the SSPX priests who have been especially formed to combat Liberalism and Modernism?  Next to nothing!  All but one SSPX bishop (Bishop Williamson) and a handful of SSPX priests have had the fortitude to stick their necks out for the sake of souls - Frs. Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, Ortiz, Girouard - to name a few.  Some of the priests who did originally speak out were immediately silenced and have unfortunately remained silent.

    In response to these outrages coming from the SSPX leadership, many of us had decided a while ago to leave the SSPX for good.  Others made that decision more recently.  However, we now firmly believe that enough has transpired for those supportive of the Resistance to make an exit from their SSPX chapels.  It should be clear to us by now that the public fight for the Faith in the SSPX bishops and priests has dissipated.  They are no longer doing what the Church has always done, that is, publicly condemn error no matter who is promoting it.  We thought that this silence from the SSPX priests would not be possible given their formation, but the facts over the past year speak for themselves.  We have painfully learned that it was easy for them to condemn error when those who were promoting it were at a distance and thereby have had very little impact on their daily lives.  But valor is tested when one's own welfare is at stake.  And it is sad to say that most SSPX priests have not shown the necessary fortitude when the fight for the Glory of God and salvation of souls presented itself in their own backyard.  

    Therefore, in the wake of this realization, we make an appeal to you to stop supporting, morally and financially, the neo-SSPX and its priests.  This includes abandoning the SSPX chapels for Mass.  We know it is a very difficult decision; we've had to go through the same.  The lack of peace is the soul’s great enemy, but we are now at peace because our actions are fully consonant with our beliefs.  The Faith comes first; everything else follows.  Remember that Joan of Arc was prohibited from receiving the sacraments; nonetheless, she persisted in her belief to the point of being burnt at the stake.  Who after her death was proclaimed a saint?  We ask, instead, that you place your full support behind those who now carry the torch of Archbishop Lefebvre and most importantly, Catholic Tradition.  This may then encourage more priests to come and join the Resistance.

    Yours in Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,

    Stephen Camidge
    Alena Camidge
    Tony La Rosa
    Michal Leonczuk
    Marzena Leonczuk
    Alicia Rusche
    James Saul
    Christine Saul
    Anthony Wahl
    Shawny Wahl




    It seems to me that it is not your place to recommend to others to stop
    going to Mass at Society chapels just because you think that's the
    answer.  Maybe they don't agree with you.  It would be enough for you
    to recommend that they stop their contributions, but that they ought to
    make their donations to the Resistance priests instead, and attend their
    Masses when at all possible.  

    We have been through this before.  Many independent priests have grown
    small flocks of lambs by their continual practice of the Catholic Faith, and
    no overshadowing Society was necessary to keep them in line, by the
    grace of God.  

    There is a difference now, in that the Resistance priests are largely only
    able to come once a month or once a year in some places.  It is what it
    is.  Not a few SSPX chapels have the same schedule in many remote
    areas, and it has been so since the beginning.  So what you have to get
    used to less convenience?  The world is bigger than your own subjective
    reality.  Life changes.  The Japanese Catholics made 'do' without any
    priest for 300 years and kept the Faith.  Now that's too much for us?  
    What are we made of?  If the Japanese Catholics had a Mass to go to
    that was a little less dogmatic than what they had known, would they
    have stayed away because of that?  



    Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    I must agree with the previous three posters.

    I do think that refraining from giving money to Neo-SSPX parishes is a good idea, since some of that money goes to Fr. Rostand, and another percentage goes to Menzingen. However, I don't object to those who still attend a Society Mass to receive the Sacraments, so long as doing so isn't a danger to one's Faith (such as if the chapel were getting too liberal).



    Precisely.  You're going for the sacraments and to say your Rosary in
    the presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament (for a plenary indulgence)
    and to confess your sins.  I don't suppose that the confessional is a good
    place to get into the politics of the Society unless it is in regards to your
    confession of a related sin of your own.  You don't go to confession to
    discuss the sins of OTHERS.

    There has to be a turning point, though, and it seems to me that happens
    when you find the venue you're accustomed to has become one where
    your faith is suffering and you then stand the risk of losing your faith.  Then
    it's time to leave.  If you can go to a Society chapel and not lose your
    faith, then it seems to me that this is something that God is asking of you,
    and you should not run away from it.


    Quote from: Zeitun
    By all means continue to go but make sure the priests know that you support the Resistance.  The pastor at our local SSPX chapel knows our online ID's and knows we attend Resistance Masses.  Why hide it?



    This is very important.  It is not so much time to RUN AWAY from the
    Society but rather time to make it known that you do not agree with
    the change of course, the diversion of principles, the clandestine
    subterfuge afoot from Menzingen.  

    If enough of the Society priests hear about this, the news can't help
    but rise to the top, and perhaps there might come some kind of change
    for the better, but at this point, it's going to take the miraculous
    intervention of God to make that happen.



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    « Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 02:36:06 PM »
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    And it is sad to say that most SSPX priests have not shown the necessary fortitude when the fight for the Glory of God and salvation of souls presented itself in their own backyard.


    Take the case of Ireland silence from the priests in public but private disagreement. Is one to guess a stance?

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    « Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 02:37:32 PM »
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  • Do I sense a reluctance to be seen agreeing with Br. Anthony...?

     Bravo, Brother! I agree with you wholeheartedly!




    Quote from: Ekim
    Can't throw the baby out with the bath water.  Our Lord is still present, body, blood, soul and divinity at our local chapel of the SSPX.  The priest does not, nor has he ever, spoken heresy.  He has never promoted or encouraged any flavor of modernism.  I can find no justification to deny Our Lord His Sunday obligation.  


    As good an argument as any I've ever heard for going to an Indult Mass when there's no SSPX in town..!

    While I do not mean to sound harsh,  and while I have no doubt this was meant sincerely, I do not see this as a compelling argument. In fact, it is no argument -  otherwise it would also be an argument for going to an Indult Mass if one's nearest SSPX Mass were only monthly, for example.

    If we wait until we hear heresy openly preached or until your SSPX priest starts offering the Novus Ordo it will be too late. The generation who lived through Vatican II and its aftermath had an excuse: nothing quite like that had happened before for a very long time if ever. There was no recent precedent.
    We, on the other hand, do not have any excuse.

    As has been said before, everyone needs to see for themselves what is the right thing to do. But I have yet to hear a really compelling argument for staying with the SSPX at this stage. Only a general desire to have the sacraments, which I think, really, ought not to be our primary, overriding concern.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 21, 2013, 02:39:12 PM »
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    It seems to me that it is not your place to recommend to others to stop
    going to Mass at Society chapels just because you think that's the
    answer.  Maybe they don't agree with you.


    I have zero support from SSPX laity to hire a hall for the 'resistance'. People are remaining in the chapels until Bishop Fellay signs.

     

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