Author Topic: Blow In (Read 1855 times)

John Grace · « **on:** June 26, 2013, 07:58:20 AM »

A reason some are hesitant to leave SSPX chapels is because in some case those urging folk to leave are "blow-ins" .ie. folk not long attending Society chapels.

How long one has attended a SSPX chapel seems to be now a factor in one having an opinion or in a decision to leave.

As I don't attend an SSPX, many are annoyed I dare voice an opinion. The cult mentality.

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:17:19 AM »

There are many many people in the Toronto SSPX chapel who have been there for years and they balked at those who voiced their concerns. One person wrote me "you are all a bunch of idiots".

John Grace · « **Reply #2 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:21:33 AM »

There is hostility to the leaving of chapels in Ireland. Only "new comers" or those, who are "emotional" are telling people to leave chapels.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2013, 09:13:02 AM »

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

There are many many people in the Toronto SSPX chapel who have been there for years and they balked at those who voiced their concerns. One person wrote me "you are all a bunch of idiots".

Idiots if we assumed those people actually care about what Archbishop Lefebvre taught. yes, that might be right.

Yes, they've been there for years, which is why they care more about the organization than the principles it is based on.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2013, 11:25:27 AM »

That's ridiculous.

Let the opponents of the Resistance know that I know plenty of fellow Resistance supporters who are long-term supporters of the SSPX.

I have attended their chapels since 2000, but it's not like I was snubbing them before that. We attended an independent chapel 10 minutes from our house instead. It's not like we were going to the Novus Ordo or the Indult.

And 3.5 of those 13 years of attendance were at Winona, MN as a seminarian! Yes, I was willing to donate my whole life to the SSPX. And I've fervently supported them since then. So I think my opinion should carry some weight.

The first time I heard of the SSPX, it was my mother getting upset about how the media was treating Abp. Lefebvre in 1988. She was convinced that he was saving the Church. I was only a boy at the time, so that was basically my opinion as well.

So although we weren't traveling the 75 minutes to the nearest SSPX chapel, we were SSPX supporters as early as 1988.

According to my handy calculator, that was 25 years ago. Hardly a "blow-in".

Wessex · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2013, 12:16:29 PM »

In my youth I saw ABL in the flesh in Chelsea Town Hall; he always drew a large crowd. There were Fr. (Peter) Morgan and Fr. Hogan in attendance. Later on I would go to lively weekend conferences and pilgimages organised by Fr. Black. But at the first Wimbledon Mass held this month I did not recognise anyone. The people I spoke to were either converts or fairly new to the SSPX. They knew little of its history, even ignorant of current events. Instead of being brought up to date since parting company with the Society, I was educating them instead! We talk here a lot about the 'old guard' now being excluded from the Society, yet so many of them seem to be staying firm and a lot of the recent following are leaving.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2013, 03:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

In my youth I saw ABL in the flesh in Chelsea Town Hall; he always drew a large crowd. There were Fr. (Peter) Morgan and Fr. Hogan in attendance. Later on I would go to lively weekend conferences and pilgimages organised by Fr. Black. But at the first Wimbledon Mass held this month I did not recognise anyone. The people I spoke to were either converts or fairly new to the SSPX. They knew little of its history, even ignorant of current events. Instead of being brought up to date since parting company with the Society, I was educating them instead! We talk here a lot about the 'old guard' now being excluded from the Society, yet so many of them seem to be staying firm and a lot of the recent following are leaving.

"Instead of being brought up to date since parting company with the Society, I was educating them instead!"

That's great! Just so long as you don't teach them how to spell pilgrimages! :rolleyes:

But seriously, it must have been a real honor to meet ABL in person.
I have friends who had that experience and it seems to have
changed their lives for the better. Saints all have had that effect
on people throughout history.

PIL-gim-a-ges?

magdalena · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2013, 04:36:56 PM »

Neil! It was a typo on the part of Wessex.

magdalena · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2013, 04:45:55 PM »

I'm not a "blow-in" to the SSPX either. I'd like to see it restored; but if I have to leave, I will: In the same manner I left the Novus Ordo 20 years ago.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2013, 07:10:11 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

I'm not a "blow-in" to the SSPX either. I'd like to see it restored; but if I have to leave, I will: In the same manner I left the Novus Ordo 20 years ago.

Yup. This right here.

I started going when I was 16, to an Independent chapel, after the indult kicked us out for going "back and forth." I was thankful for that, but now my church has been hijacked by the XSPX.

:cry:

Wessex · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2013, 07:38:26 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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But seriously, it must have been a real honor to meet ABL in person.
I have friends who had that experience and it seems to have
changed their lives for the better. Saints all have had that effect
on people throughout history.

I only saw him from some distance at the back of the hall. I was not mature enough to appreciate the full significance of his visit and can only remember a few details.

At the time there were other Latin Mass outfits occupying the rebel trad scene and the archbishop was no doubt assessing the possibilities. With regard to the effect he had on people, what puzzles me is why did most of his early collaborators eventually abandon him.

magdalena · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2013, 08:15:45 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

Quote from: Neil Obstat
[
But seriously, it must have been a real honor to meet ABL in person.
I have friends who had that experience and it seems to have
changed their lives for the better. Saints all have had that effect
on people throughout history.

I only saw him from some distance at the back of the hall. I was not mature enough to appreciate the full significance of his visit and can only remember a few details.

At the time there were other Latin Mass outfits occupying the rebel trad scene and the archbishop was no doubt assessing the possibilities. With regard to the effect he had on people, what puzzles me is why did most of his early collaborators eventually abandon him.

Saint Athanasius against the world.

Sometimes I think that we are beyond Calvary. We are at the point of Christ being carried to the Tomb. Thankfully, we know there will be an Easter Sunday.