Author Topic: Latest news on SSPX-Rome agreement - May 26th (Read 7480 times)

Matthew · « **on:** May 26, 2012, 04:04:55 PM »

Posted on Ignis Ardens:

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A few little lights on what the agreement entails according to what His Excellency Bishop Fellay told the priests while he was in Austria. No it wasn't an interview so I can't put a link, it was simply a discussion. Take this bit of news or leave it. I can't give the priests name so I can't necessarily back up what I've just posted, but it was relayed by Father none the less.

1.) THE POPE WILL DECIDE ON WHO WILL BE BISHOPS OF THE SSPX. WHO WILL REPLACE THOSE WHO LEAVE OR WHO DO NOT CHOSE TO GO ALONG WITH THE AGREEMENT. THOSE BISHOPS WILL BE FREE TO LEAVE, AND THEY WILL BE REPLACED.

2.) NO NEW STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED TO BE ERECTED WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE DIOCESAN BISHOPS

3.) ANY BUILDINGS LESS THAN 3 YEARS OLD MUST BE CLOSED DOWN. ANY BUILDINGS OLDER THAN 3 YEARS OLD MAY REMAIN UP AND RUNNING.

According to His Excellency the General Chapter will not be meeting to discuss an acceptance of the agreement but simply to learn what the new statutes will be under the new agreement with Rome.

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** May 26, 2012, 04:06:28 PM »

This was taken from a talk "last week" by Bishop Fellay while he was in Austria.

That would be May 21-25?

Anyhow, we shouldn't be surprised that this deal is not a good one. There can be NO "good deal" with Rome while it is still lousy with Modernism.

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #2 on:** May 26, 2012, 04:10:18 PM »

What an absolute sell out if this is accurate. Apparently Fellay was intent to make a deal at ANY cost.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2012, 04:15:00 PM »

Thank you for informing us of this new development, Matthew.

If they do reconcile with Apostate Rome, the damage that it will do to the traditional Catholic determination to restore Catholicism to the Vatican will be huge.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2012, 04:42:15 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

3.) ANY BUILDINGS LESS THAN 3 YEARS OLD MUST BE CLOSED DOWN. ANY BUILDINGS OLDER THAN 3 YEARS OLD MAY REMAIN UP AND RUNNING.

I wonder how this will play out. For example, I think an Ohio SSPX location was recently moved to KY in favor of a brand new church which was built there. (Someone in the area can correct that information if I'm wrong.) Would that be a "new building" or would it get to remain open?

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2012, 04:50:37 PM »

WHAT!?!?

No way this could be true.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2012, 05:05:24 PM »

So millions have been presumably collected for building a new seminary, which may now rest in the decision making authority of the local bishop?

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2012, 05:26:16 PM »

Note to forum-

I currently have inquiries in to high ranking SSPX personalities, asking them whether they can confirm or deny the substance of this thread.

As soon as I have a response, presuming it not be given on the condition of confidentiality, I will post it.

TKGS · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2012, 06:52:21 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

Note to forum-

I currently have inquiries in to high ranking SSPX personalities, asking them whether they can confirm or deny the substance of this thread.

As soon as I have a response, presuming it not be given on the condition of confidentiality, I will post it.

Thank you. This would be most helpful.

I note that item 1 does not guarantee bishops chosen by Rome would necessarily come from within the ranks of the Society.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:05:44 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

I note that item 1 does not guarantee bishops chosen by Rome would necessarily come from within the ranks of the Society.

Unfortunately, it would be easy for Rome to agree that bishops would come from within the Society as there are many in high positions within the Society who will follow +Fellay's lead.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:11:14 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

So millions have been presumably collected for building a new seminary, which may now rest in the decision making authority of the local bishop?

The US seminary was purged a decade ago when +Williamson was removed. So, this project would probably get approved even if the local bishop doesn't like the idea. Whether or not they'll even need a larger seminary a year from now is another question.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:11:52 PM »

Yes. Exactly.

Fellay can propose that one of his sycophants is made a Bishop.

Then it will truly be a dark hour.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:16:08 PM »

This deal will mean that several hundred thousand traditional Catholics will be led back into the conciliar church.

Let’s hope that somehow this tragedy can be averted.

It would be a massive victory over the traditional Catholic community.

There will be numerically far fewer people left opposed to Vatican II if this scheme succeeds.

These really are Apocalyptic times.

Let’s pray that soon this awful period in the Church’s history comes to an end.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #13 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:21:56 PM »

Matthew, this is a great idea to have a separate sub forum for this matter of the agreement.

Because it is so important for traditional Catholics. Not just the SSPX, but it will affect other traditional Catholics as well.

We are so outnumbered now.

Imagine if several hundred thousand traditional Catholics head for the conciliar church.
And they probably will. People usually follow the herd.
And they usually follow corrupt leaders.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #14 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:35:00 PM »

What's the point of closing down buildings with substantial capital investments already in them, thus negating all of the planning that has gone into developing and maintaining the properties?