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Offline bowler

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« Reply #135 on: November 02, 2012, 10:54:37 AM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
    Columba has posted this on IA.

    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11278
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    This topic is a includes contents from posts on the Kr_ah Remnant interview thread. Additionally, forum member Freshwater finds financial inconsistencies disclosed by Kr_ah here, not included in this topic.

    Dr. Kr_ah,

    In the Remnant interview, you stated ...that you were chosen by the Jaidhofer Foundation donor family to serve as trustee of their SSPX-supporting non-profit foundation. This family was subsequently identified in the related thread as the von Gutmanns of Austria. Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz has stated that you were involved with an 80 million Euro inheritance recieved in Austria from Baroness von Gutmann....


    Wow! Excellent material. I was wondering how they were going to come up with the $60 million to build the Virginia seminary. Now it is clear.

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    « Reply #136 on: November 02, 2012, 11:19:48 AM »
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  • quo vadis:
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    I could hardly care whether Krah was Jєωιѕн or not. What's most important is his disturbing connections and his rabid Zionism.


    I disagree.  I think his ethnic lineage is very important.  He may have been born Catholic, and baptized Catholic as he affirms.  But, then again, he may be a lying jew.  Jews are liars.  I think it is very important to know what his roots are.   Sorry, but for you to say that you care less, I think, is disingenuous.


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    « Reply #137 on: November 02, 2012, 11:34:58 AM »
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  • My point is that regardless of being Jew or not, any person who is a rabid Zionist controlling SSPX finance who is hobnobbing with Jєωιѕн personages (Gentile or not) is the worry. The race doesn't really matter. I'd say the same of any non-Jew who is also a rabid Zionist and/or тαℓмυdist (Reuchlin being one example).
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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    « Reply #138 on: November 02, 2012, 11:54:02 AM »
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    The French speaking world continues to discuss "L’affaire Krah : les dessous de l’affaire Williamson"
    02/11/2012
    http://www.les-intransigeants.com/2012/11/laffaire-krah-les-dessous-de-laffaire-williamson/

    And also Michael Hoffmann
    http://revisionistreview.blogspot.in/2012/11/interview-with-zionist-agent-maximilian.html

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    « Reply #139 on: November 02, 2012, 12:04:24 PM »
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    QUOTE (HMiS @ Nov 2 2012, 01:21 PM)
    The von Gutmann family has nothing to answer for, with all due respect. Merely because of ancestry?


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    This is ridiculous and verges on calumny. None of my questions contain reference, implied or otherwise, to Jєωιѕн ancestry.


    Thanks again to Columba for posing the pertinent questions.


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    « Reply #140 on: November 02, 2012, 03:09:17 PM »
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  • James
    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11278&st=0
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    Are you PoG/DO/WoN etc. or may be there is an Irish connection in Derek Holland/John Grace.


    Whilst I have the highest regard for Derek Holland, I am not Derek Holland. James is making a false claim here. I would appreciate if 'James' did apologise to Derek Holland. I would be much obliged if this could be corrected on Ignis Ardens.


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    « Reply #141 on: November 02, 2012, 03:14:02 PM »
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  • Has James any comment on this?

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    This topic is a includes contents from posts on the Kr_ah Remnant interview thread. Additionally, forum member Freshwater finds financial inconsistencies disclosed by Kr_ah here, not included in this topic.

    Dr. Kr_ah,

    In the Remnant interview, you stated that you were chosen by the Jaidhofer Foundation donor family to serve as trustee of their SSPX-supporting non-profit foundation. This family was subsequently identified in the related thread as the von Gutmanns of Austria. Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz has stated that you were involved with an 80 million Euro inheritance recieved in Austria from Baroness von Gutmann.

    Unfortunately, the von Gutmanns are (perhaps inadvertently) now mixed up in a war against SSPX hardliners by the leadership over whether to proceed toward a deal with Rome at this time. If the von Gutmanns did not intend to become involved, then you Dr. Kr_ah are responsible. Since the family appointed you as trustee of their foundation, you represent them and should have shielded them from potential blow-back of this struggle by limiting your involvement or at least keeping it secret.

    Questions asked by SSPX followers include:
    Is the Jaidhofer Foundation family that of the deceased Baroness Rosa von Gutmann as described in this translation from the July, 2012 edition of "Region Kampseen" ? (courtesy of MauricePinay)


    Were you or your fellow trustee Dr. Nicholas Ankershofen professionally involved with the SSPX prior to the von Gutmann designation.
    Do you and Dr. Ankershofen have discretion over disbursement of funds to the SSPX?
    Do Dr. Ankershofen or the von Gutmanns share your Zionist beliefs and were these beliefs a factor in your selection as trustee?
    Do the von Gutmann heirs retain ultimate control over the Jaidhofer Foundation?
    Have you or the von Gutmanns influenced the SSPX to distance itself from +Williamson or pursue regularization?
    Do the von Gutmanns approve of your ongoing public attacks against Bishop Williamson?
    If you were not employed by the SSPX prior to your trusteeship, then the von Gutmanns are unfortunately responsible for elevating to SSPX "management" the orchestrator of the Menzingen media attack against Bishop Williamson. If you do have discretion over disbursements to Menzingen, then your vigorous public support for Zionism puts the motivations for the heated denunciations of +Williamson into question. If the von Gutmanns did not ask you, as their designated trustee, to stop publicly attacking Bishop Williamson, then they share some responsibility for these attacks.

    It is too bad the von Gutmanns did not restrain you earlier. Perhaps they never expected their association with you to become widely known. If the von Gutmanns do not now dissociate themselves from the anti-Williamson campaign, they become notoriously connected because of your central role in it. If the von Gutmanns are involved and they retain control of the Jaidhofer Foundation, they would be like a dog wagging the Menzingen tail with 80 million Euros worth of clout. +Fellay could not proceed along his path of radical change while at the same time keeping the money without von Gutmann acquiescence, at the very least.

    You have have recently posted on this forum and stated that you regularly monitor postings by traditionalists concerning your activities. Fr. Rostand has recently stated that he and other SSPX officials also regularly monitor the trad forums. One can reasonably expect that you will learn of the circuмstantial evidence presented on this forum linking the von Gutmanns with the anti-Williamson campaign. You have the means to relay said evidence to the family. If there is no clarification forthcoming regarding these apparent linkages exposed by the occasion of your interview, the evidence is further validated. Silence in this case would equal consent or no contest. Traditionalists who interpret the recent changes in the Society as an attack against the legacy of Archbishop Lefebvre would thereby have justification to suspect the von Gutmanns as one of the primary instigators.

    There is a war against Bishop Williamson and the legacy of Archbishop Lefebvre, but it is necessary to avoid harming noncombatants according to the rules of Just War theory. If anyone finds the circuмstantial linkages between the von Gutmanns and the anti-Williamson campaign to be wrong (detraction or calumny) or exaggerated, please make known you concerns.

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    « Reply #142 on: November 02, 2012, 03:19:37 PM »
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  • As far as I'm aware the Krah file is posts by 'William of Norwich', Veritas1961, Freshwater, WhiteRose rebel.

    The rest asked questions based on published facts which can be proven about a man in the Society leadership and in the public domain.


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    « Reply #143 on: November 02, 2012, 03:23:24 PM »
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    The French speaking world continues to discuss "L’affaire Krah : les dessous de l’affaire Williamson"
    02/11/2012
    http://www.les-intransigeants.com/2012/11/laffaire-krah-les-dessous-de-laffaire-williamson/



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    « Reply #144 on: November 02, 2012, 03:29:12 PM »
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  • Freshwater made the point and I agree. It is Dr Krah who has significance in the SSPX not those who asked questions. Questions were asked based on published facts. This should not be forgotten. Dr Krah has been given the authority to speak on behalf of the management. 'Freshwater' summaries it very well below. People want to alleviate the concerns.

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    Dr. Kr ah – I am of no significance within the SSPX, you are. I can remain anonymous, and it matters none because I have only ever asked about the SSPX business structures – based on published FACTS, which anyone can obtain. I have never questioned your beliefs, values, or associations, outside those SSPX related business structures. You are [now] well known within the Society. The Society has changed, whether we like that or not. That fact is undeniable. It is curious that many major changes happened in 2008/2009 and many of these things were done in secret (well – from the laity and many of the Priests at least). When there is a change in course, a logical thinker has to ask the question: “What’s happened, what’s different?”

    Do you say that we shouldn’t be concerned about a perceived abnormality in the situation, or something that is perceived to be suspicious? Or should we just sit back and watch the world go by? Note: I am not blaming you, you have been given directions. In reality, it’s the “management” that should be answering the questions. But since you have been given the liberty (by management) to speak on these matters, I hope that you, out of charity, can answer the above “correct” questions so that concerns can be alleviated.

    If these particular questions are ignored, then concerns will remain. And we don't want that do we?

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    « Reply #145 on: November 02, 2012, 03:34:09 PM »
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    I could hardly care whether Krah was Jєωιѕн or not. What's most important is his disturbing connections and his rabid Zionism.


    I disagree.  I think his ethnic lineage is very important.  He may have been born Catholic, and baptized Catholic as he affirms.  But, then again, he may be a lying jew.  Jews are liars.  I think it is very important to know what his roots are.   Sorry, but for you to say that you care less, I think, is disingenuous.

    Krah is NOT Jєωιѕн. You may want him to be a Jew but that will not make him into one. We need good, solid, sensible, holy, Traditional Catholic resistance to Menzingen. Not resistance that paints inself into a paranoid corner.


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    « Reply #146 on: November 02, 2012, 03:41:04 PM »
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    I could hardly care whether Krah was Jєωιѕн or not. What's most important is his disturbing connections and his rabid Zionism.


    I disagree.  I think his ethnic lineage is very important.  He may have been born Catholic, and baptized Catholic as he affirms.  But, then again, he may be a lying jew.  Jews are liars.  I think it is very important to know what his roots are.   Sorry, but for you to say that you care less, I think, is disingenuous.

    Krah is NOT Jєωιѕн. You may want him to be a Jew but that will not make him into one. We need good, solid, sensible, holy, Traditional Catholic resistance to Menzingen. Not resistance that paints inself into a paranoid corner.


    Have you ruled it out of been a tactic of the resistance? The wacko resistance, who in reality are not wackos.

    Many who adhere to the Indult/Summorum Pontificuм regard 'Williamsonites' as the 'lunatic fringe' anyways.


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    « Reply #147 on: November 02, 2012, 05:11:42 PM »
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  • It's important to remain calm.

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    « Reply #148 on: November 02, 2012, 05:39:26 PM »
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    QUOTE (HMiS @ Nov 2 2012, 01:21 PM)
    The von Gutmann family has nothing to answer for, with all due respect. Merely because of ancestry?


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    This is ridiculous and verges on calumny. None of my questions contain reference, implied or otherwise, to Jєωιѕн ancestry.


    Thanks again to Columba for posing the pertinent questions.

    Thank YOU. One can only be inspired by the response of online trads to the present crisis. Those behind Vatican II B are experiencing difficulties not encountered by their predecessors at Vatican II A. Loyal Catholics today have a more efficient means of communication with which to resist.

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    « Reply #149 on: November 02, 2012, 05:53:45 PM »
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  • Yeah, I know what you mean.  

       I'm starting to feel sorry for old Maxie too.





    Poor guy...









    He's been "treed".











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