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« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2012, 12:47:35 PM »
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  • But to return to the interview my question is similar to this.

    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11233&st=100
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    Why then, is it expedient to allow them to be explained in public media at this time

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    « Reply #61 on: October 29, 2012, 01:06:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elmer Fudd
    DR. Krah is now a member of IA and has responded.

    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11233&st=50


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    As my interview has caused some discussions on IA (as well as on Cathinfo), please allow me to give a short review:

    1) In 2010, the stalking campaign against me began. Now it might be clear that non of the accussations then made is true. Until now I didn�t receive any apology by one of the involved persons.

    2) Instead, those who drove the campaign do continue to stalk, slur and slander. Example: On Cathinfo, my stalking community now try to use my Facebook "Likes" against me. Imagine, someone has plenty of books, a huge library, including classical literature, philosphy etc. Now you may find within this collection of books one or two that might be questionable. Some time later, even these few books are replaced. Nontheless, you start a campaign gainst the booklover, stating that these one or two books show his true nature, blending out all the other books, the big picture. Exactly this takes place now. Oh, what wackos!

    3) More, Mr. "Hollingsworth" from Post Falls helds the opinion, that he has the right to defame with impunity. I don�t agree with him. That�s why I wrote him. And that�s why I consulted a lawyer-friend in NYC, who at the end of the day told me about the costs of a defamation file against the Mister from Idaho (whose address I know) and asked me, whether I really want to invest this amount. I didn�t want, because of the simple fact that a successful file against one of my stalkers would not stop the others.

    4) I am once again impressed by the amount of "iudaeophobia" - thanks to Mr. McFarland for this great term - among my stalkers. Mr. McFarland is fully right, when stating:

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    If I were a little old Jєωιѕн lady, it wouldn't take much of this stuff to get me to send off a big fat check to the ADL.


    Look, organizations like the ADL have a certain purpose: attacking antisemite behaviour. I can hardly criticize them for doing their job. People like my stalkers are doing the job of those who want to blame the SSPX. They give a bad example.

    Pope Pius XI. stated very clearly: "The Church has no share in anti-semitism." Neither has the SSPX, nor I. The German bourgeoisie�s gravest failure in history was to be bystanders when the nαzιs discriminated and later massmurdered their Jєωιѕн neighbors, colleagues, and friends. You won�t find any German of class who is standing aside when again losers try to compensate their inferiority complexes on cost of other people.

    5) This leads to my final point, and another lawyer, Mr. Wansbutler.

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    This interview confirms, crystal clearly, that Max "He who shall remain nameless" represents the "moderate" "respectable" new face of the S.S.P.X


    What, Mr. Wansbutler, is so bad with being "moderate" and "respectable"? Look, the SSPX (and the whole Traditional Catholic movement) were badly treated after Vatican 2. Respect was refused, which was a grave unjust. Now, by solid work, by staying devote and pious, by charity, by the moderate and prudent leadership of the Superiors and by the example all those many faithful give, by their clean life, their work, their positive attitude - We are good people! - we reach the point in which society can�t resist the respect any longer. We see the fruits of staying loyal to faith and tradition, what includes prudence and moderation. And now you are coming and criticizing it?

    There are people in our ranks who were attrackted not by the faith, but by the unjust situation of being outcast. This is why, in the words of Bishop Fellay, "we are attractive for weirdos, although we don�t want that." Outsiders love to be outcast. For them, the SSPX is not the arch of the faith, but the refugium in which they hope to be protected from real life. They want to be sect instead of church. They don�t see the unjust stage of being outcasted by the Vatican 2-authorities as a burden, but as a chance. They don�t want to overcome the crisis, as the crisis is somehow comfortable to them. That, Mr. Wansbutler, is why you and your fellows are so against being "respected"; isn�t it? And that�s the very reason for the current campaign against the SSPX, represented by its superiors, of which the campaign against me was a side tone.

    That said, I hope the differences are clear. I am just a Catholic family father. I live my life, I take care on my family, I serve my country, fullfill the laws, pay taxes, and I don�t think that being respected and successful is somehow mad. I know most of us do it the same way. And thus I am quite relaxed about this campaign. Everyone knows what kind of people are behind it - the ones we don�t need, but who need our charity.


    My favorite rebuttal so far is from Maurice Pinay:

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    Then came the Pharisees and Doctors of the law ...


    Oh, my.

    It occurs to me that if the SSPX had initially been proposed as a society for counterfeit Israel supporters who believe 'Jews' deserve the front row; who not only throw open their windows to the world but admit a striving for worldly respect, its founders would have been viewed with far more suspicion than the revolutionaries of Vatican II.

    Also, I'm no Doctor of the law but it seems to me that searching out the identity and home address of an individual more closely conforms to "stalking" than the recognition of a public individual's already publicly available information and behavior.


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    « Reply #62 on: October 29, 2012, 01:08:52 PM »
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  • The friend of Zionism again:

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    Dear Mr. Wansbutler,

    first of all, it is remarkable, that non of the attacks which are striked out in this current discussion has something to do with the original accusations, made in 2010.

    Now I get attacked for somhow being "not Catholic enough", what in a very fundamental way thrives the question what being Catholic means. The Church answers it quite clear: You have to hold the faith, attending to the sacraments. Being Catholic is not about history, politics, not about style and fashion. It is about religion, about fundamental beliefs on God and our relation to Him. In the same way as it is wrong to exclude some dogmas from the integral faith - the haeresy - it is sinful and a thread against the faith to add something to the faith. I hope we agree on this.

    Now, on all those stalking threads in the net I haven�t found yet just one accusation concerning one single dogma I would deny. Noone accuses me for not receiving the sacraments. But all those "truest Catholics" are absolutely sure that I am something like the devil himself. Isn�t that crazy? Obviously, they judge on completely different measures as the Church does.

    But let us go into detail:

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    I would go down to Kansas City and confront him man-to-man about it. That seems to be the Catholic gentlemanly way to go about it.
    - what a good advise! Unfortunately, hard to realize against a stalking community that prefers to stay anonymous, right?

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    whereas to say, along with the pre-Vatican II magisterium that "[a] dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees" is considered a "fanatic". Perhaps more seriously, your praise for feminism, which is considered normal today, and one such as I who, along with the pre-Vatican II Church believes a wife's place is in the home raising childen, is a "misogynist". Just a couple of examples,


    a) First impression: All your "examples" are connected with women. Are you married?

    b) Second: "Pre-Vatican II-magisterium" does not tell anything about fashion. Once again, you add to the faith what not belong to. The Concile of Trent did even refuse the right of the Church to set rules on eating - that�s a dogma, and it is the "nearest" dogma concerning such "fashion rules". All we have about fashion are conclusions out of the dogma, which are always dependend to the time, the place, and the people which are affected. This in no ways is an absolution of some objectionable trends in fashion. It is just a call to take things as they are and not declaring secondary issues to be questions of faith.

    3) What finally leads to the fundamental aspect:
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    The modern world is so thoroughly bad, and has totally rejected Christ, that I think the be "respectable" today is all to often a bad thing. Today, evil is good and good is evil.


    And here, my friend, we have the source of your critical position towards me, and we have - please take it into consideration and not just blame me for this objection - a clear haeresy from your side. You fully misunderstand one of the major dogmas of the Church, once again formulated by the Concile of Trent: on the original sin.

    The Church teaches - infallible - that the human nature is good. But by the original sin it got wounded. This dogma was necessary, since Luther taught exactly what you state: That the original sin has fully destroyed all the good in the human nature. The discussion went on the use of pre-Christian art and philosophy in the Renaissance era. The Church was big in Renaissance, and it caused some moral troubles. Luther blamed the whole anchient (pre-Christian as well as not-yet-Christian) tradition for being - in your words - "thoroughly bad." He did it by overstating the effect of the original sin, for Luther it was a complete destruction of the good in the human nature, for the Church it is "just" a wound. What a difference! What great dogma! One of my favourite philosophers, Carl Schmitt, praises the Church for this dogma in his text "Roman Catholicism and political form". I�m with him. This dogma shows the brillance of our faith. Schmitt describes the Church as a "complexio oppositorum", what is worth to think about. And this is the key to understand and hence to reject such simplistic views as shown by you.

    And now apply this dogma to our times. Yes, our era has lost grace. But this brings us back on the stage of nature. Nature is inherently good, but wounded by the original sin - dogma! That means, our era is not "thoroughly bad", but it is "good, but wounded" - quite similar as, for instance, the Roman Empire, which was by far more hostile against Christianity as our times are. And we have - very carefully - to distinguish. We have to check. There is no simplistic solution a la "everything is bad" - not even during the worst epoches of persecution the Church taught such nonsense concerning the Roman Empire. And by what measures we have to distinguish? By the dogma!


    None so blind as those who will not see. Are we supposed to be bamboozled by the straw man diversions? by the impeccable Catholic who stalks his critics?

    [size=8]Zionism is against the Faith.

    Usury is against the Faith.

    Pornography is against the Faith.

    Blasphemy is against the Faith.
    [/size]


    The Court Zionist needs to be reminded of the nine ways to be an accomplice in sin.

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    « Reply #63 on: October 29, 2012, 01:20:13 PM »
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    Look, organizations like the ADL have a certain purpose: attacking antisemite behaviour. I can hardly criticize them for doing their job.


    Did he say this with a straight face?
    Once again, a simple search about the ADL/JDL (for fun, throw in 'freemason') is quite telling.   If I knew nothing about Mr. Krah before this statement, I sure do now.

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    « Reply #64 on: October 29, 2012, 01:21:33 PM »
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    Look, organizations like the ADL have a certain purpose: attacking antisemite behaviour. I can hardly criticize them for doing their job.


    Did he say this with a straight face?
    Once again, a simple search about the ADL/JDL (for fun, throw in 'freemason') is quite telling.   If I knew nothing about Mr. Krah before this statement, I sure do now.


    Yes, to attack Catholic Tradition, which they consider antisemitic.


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    « Reply #65 on: October 29, 2012, 01:24:25 PM »
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  • The World Jews have made it clear Bishop Fellay has to accept Vatican II.

    And from Bishop Fellay's own hemming and hawing it seems apparent he's about to go along with it.

    So much for Archbishop Lefebvre's I Accuse the Council.

    So much for Catholic Tradition in the SSPX!

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    « Reply #66 on: October 29, 2012, 01:25:20 PM »
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  • How fitting that Krah used Judaica Ardens for his forum.

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    « Reply #67 on: October 29, 2012, 01:35:54 PM »
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    Krah said: Pre-Vatican II-magisterium" does not tell anything about fashion. Once again, you add to the faith what not belong to. ....All we have about fashion are conclusions out of the dogma, which are always dependend to the time, the place, and the people which are affected. This in no ways is an absolution of some objectionable trends in fashion.


    Comment from Bowler, a father of more children than Mr. Krah, a man that could be Mr' Krah's father, and a man who had all the toys to get all the models that he wanted, when he was of the world (nothing to be proud of today).

    Dear Mr. Krah,

    Your comment above indicates to me glaringly, that you do not know the faith. On every USA SSPX Chapel is posted a dress code, and it forbids mini-skirts and form fit tight fit revealing clothing. The reason for that is that men like me, real men, are tempted to sin by these fashions. It's very simple really, and should not require explanation to a man. High heels, mini-skirts, exposed belly, tight stretch tops, all of those fashions, send more people to hell than any other sins.

    Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. (St. Remigius of Rheims)

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    Salvation is no piece of cake. Here is a printout I received at a retreat in Ridgefield, Connecticut in 1998 or so:

    THE TEACHINGS OF THE FATHERS, DOCTORS AND SAINTS OF T CHURCH UPON THE FINAL DESTINY OF MOST PEOPLE.

    1) Notwithstanding assurances that God did not create any man for Hell, and that He wishes all men to be saved, it remains equally true that few will be saved; that only few will go to Heaven; and that the greater part of mankind will be lost for ever. (St. John Neuman)

    2) It is certain that few are saved. (St. Augustine)

    3) The majority of men shall not see God. (St. Julian the Martyr)

    4) Those who are saved are in the minority. ( St. Thomas Aquinas)

    5) The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love almighty God. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    6) So vast a number of miserable souls perish, and so comparatively few are saved. (St. Philip Neri)

    7) Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. (St. Remigius of Rheims)


    8) Death bed conversions/repentance-there are hardly any:
       Out of 100,000 sinners who continue in sin until death, scarcely ONE will be saved. (St. Jerome)

    9) The MAJORITY OF CATHOLICS GO TO HELL:

    a) The greater number of Christians today are damned. The destiny of those dying on one day is that very few  -  not as many as ten  -   went straight to Heaven; many remained in Purgatory; and THOSE CAST INTO HELL WERE NUMEROUS AS SNOWFLAKES in mid-winter. (Bl. Anna Maria Taigi)

    b) There are many who arrive at the faith, but few who are led to the heavenly kingdom. Behold how many are gathered here for today's Feast-Day; we fill the church from wall to wall. Yet who knows how FEW they are who shall be numbered in that chosen company of the elect? (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    c) The Ark, which in the midst of the Flood was the symbol of the Church, was wide below and narrow above, .... It was wide where the animals were, narrow where men lived; for the Holy Church is indeed wide in number of those who are carnal minded, narrow in the number of those who are spiritual.
    ( Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    d) Shall we all be saved? Shall we go to heaven? Alas, my children we do not know at all! But I tremble when I see so many souls lost these days. See, they fall into Hell as leaves fall from the trees at the approach of winter. (St. John Vianney)

    10) MOST PRIESTS GO TO HELL:

    St. John Chrysostom, Patriarch of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church:

    I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that- many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great  great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.

    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)[/quote]


    a) I do not speak rashly, but how I feel and think. I do not think that many priests are saved, but that those who perish are more numerous. ( St. John Chrysostom)

    b) Most priest are lost and few bishops are saved, not because of what they do, so much as what they fail to do. (St. John Chrysotom)

    c) Many religious go to Hell because they do not keep their vows. (St. Vincent Ferrer)


    CATHOLICS NOT ASPIRING AND NOT LIVING AS SAINTS WILL GO TO HELL:

    a) They who are enlightened to walk in the way of perfection, and through lukewarmness wish to tread the ordinary paths, shall be abandoned. (Bl. Angela of Foligno)

    b) They who are to be saved as Saints, and wish to be saved as imperfect souls, shall not be saved. (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    c) St. Teresa.... had she not risen from the state of lukewarmness in which she lived, she would in the end have lost the grace of God and been damned. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    14) How many inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to say is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with it's thousands of inhabitants, not 100 people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! ( St. John Chrysostom - the city was Antioch and its inhabitants were known to be in pursuit of comfort and the good things of things life.)

    15) A multitude of souls fall into the depths of Hell. (St. Anthony Mary Claret - It has been revealed that on the day of the death of St. Bernard there also died 79,997 other people, and of this total of 80,000 who died, only St. Bernard and two other monks were saved.

    16) In the great deluge in the days of Noah, all mankind perished, eight persons alone being saved in the Ark. In our days a deluge, not of water, but sins, continually inundates the earth, and out of this deluge very few escape. Scarcely anyone is saved. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    17) Yes indeed, many will be damned; few will be saved. (St. Benedict Joseph Labro)

    18) If you only knew the women who will go to Hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it. ( St. John Vianney)

    19) He who goes to Hell, goes of his own accord. Everyone who is damned, is damned because he wills his own damnation. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    20) THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE FAITH CAN ALSO GO TO HELL:
    a) When such unbelievers are damned, it is on account of other sins, which cannot be taken away without the faith, but not because of their sin of unbelief. (St. Thomas Aquinas)

    b) Everyone that is of truth hears my voice. (St. John 18:37)

    c) It may be true that there are, in the remotest parts of the world, some people who have not yet seen the light of the Savior. Certainly, God's manifold and ineffable goodness has always provided, and still provides, for all mankind in such a way that not one of the reprobates can find an excuse as though he had been refused the light of truth. ( St. Prosper of Aquitaine)

    d) No one is lost without knowing it, and no one is deceived without wanting to be. (St. Teresa of Avila)

    21) OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO SALVATION:

    a) No matter how praiseworthy his actions might seem, he who is separated from the Catholic Church will never enjoy eternal life (Pope Gregory XVI)

    b) O ye atheists who do not believe in God, what fools you are ! But if you do believe there is a God, you must also believe there is a true religion. And if not the Roman Catholic, which is it? Perhaps that of the pagans who admit many gods, thus they deny them all. Perhaps that of Mohammed, a religion invented by an impostor and framed for beasts rather than humans. Perhaps that of the Jews who had the true faith at one time but, because they rejected their redeemer, lost their faith, their country, their everything. Perhaps that of the heretics who, separating themselves from our Church, have confused all revealed dogmas in such a way that the belief of one heretic is contrary to that of his neighbor. O holy faith! Enlighten all those poor blind creatures who run to eternal perdition! (St. Alphonsus Liguori)


     


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    « Reply #68 on: October 29, 2012, 01:45:13 PM »
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    Mr. Krah said: Pre-Vatican II-magisterium" does not tell anything about fashion. Once again, you add to the faith what not belong to. ....All we have about fashion are conclusions out of the dogma, which are always dependend to the time, the place, and the people which are affected. This in no ways is an absolution of some objectionable trends in fashion


    Bowler is: a father of more children than Mr. Krah, a man old enough to be Mr. Krah's father, and a man who when he was younger, and he was in the world, was in a profession and had all the toys to get all the models that he wanted (nothing to be proud of today). I hope that answers Mr. Krah's questioning whether someone was married, as if it was a qualification for talking about womens fashions.

    Dear Mr. Krah,

    Your comment above indicates to me glaringly, that you do not know the faith. On every USA SSPX Chapel is posted a dress code, and it forbids mini-skirts and form fit tight fit revealing clothing. The reason for that is that men like me, real men, are tempted to sin by these fashions. It's very simple really, and should not require explanation to a man. High heels, mini-skirts, exposed belly, tight stretch tops, all of those fashions, send more people to hell than any other sins.

    "Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned". (St. Remigius of Rheims)

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    « Reply #69 on: October 29, 2012, 01:46:33 PM »
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    QUOTE (Dr. Maximilian Kr..ah @ Oct 29 2012, 05:05 PM)
    Now I get attacked for somhow being "not Catholic enough", what in a very fundamental way thrives the question what being Catholic means. The Church answers it quite clear: You have to hold the faith, attending to the sacraments. Being Catholic is not about history, politics, not about style and fashion. It is about religion, about fundamental beliefs on God and our relation to Him.

    The Catholic worldview is definitive on "history, politics, [..] style and fashion." You reject the worldview for which Bp. Williamson is arguably the world's chief defender at this time. It is no wonder you were chosen to orchestrate the media campaign against him. You even insultingly insinuated that Bp. Williamson was disturbed or suffering from Parkinson�s Disease. Only within your minimalist conception of Catholicism can such behavior pass muster.


    Kudos to Columba for that incisive assessment.

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    « Reply #70 on: October 29, 2012, 01:54:36 PM »
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    Mr. Krah said: Pre-Vatican II-magisterium" does not tell anything about fashion. Once again, you add to the faith what not belong to. ....All we have about fashion are conclusions out of the dogma, which are always dependend to the time, the place, and the people which are affected. This in no ways is an absolution of some objectionable trends in fashion


    Bowler is: a father of more children than Mr. Krah, a man old enough to be Mr. Krah's father, and a man who when he was younger, and he was in the world, was in a profession and had all the toys to get all the models that he wanted (nothing to be proud of today). I hope that answers Mr. Krah's questioning whether someone was married, as if it was a qualification for talking about womens fashions.

    Dear Mr. Krah,

    Your comment above indicates to me glaringly, that you do not know the faith. On every USA SSPX Chapel is posted a dress code, and it forbids mini-skirts and form fit tight fit revealing clothing. The reason for that is that men like me, real men, are tempted to sin by these fashions. It's very simple really, and should not require explanation to a man. High heels, mini-skirts, exposed belly, tight stretch tops, all of those fashions, send more people to hell than any other sins.

    "Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned". (St. Remigius of Rheims)


    I am not surprised by Mr. Krah's lack of knowledge about such basic teaching of the Church, I have noticed this among the SSPX newcomers for like 10 years now, the SSPX is no longer teaching the faith, they are just down to the Novus Ordo style bare minimum, provide a Sunday mass (reverent). PERIOD, end of job.


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    « Reply #71 on: October 29, 2012, 02:12:31 PM »
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  • Pertinent details here.
    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=11233&st=100
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    In the Remnant interview, although German SSPX lawyer K briefly touches on the +Wiliamson case, and expands in great details quite unimportant matters, he is totally silent on his role of “helping” Bishop Williamson. I will mention just two events here:

    1—12-13 January 2010
    The first event is his attempt to force Bishop Williamson to give an interview to the German leftist magazine, Der Spiegel, by forcing their way inside St Georges House on the 12 and 13 January 2010.
    The Bishop had already refused to receive the SSPX lawyer K and the two Spiegel journalists even before arriving in London – in other words, they were aware while still in Germany that Bishop Williamson had no intention of giving them an interview:
    This is confirmed in the article written by Stephen Heiner who had visited the Bishop straight after:

    “K insists on coming for the pre-interview “coaching session.” The Bishop expresses the discomfort he has with K’s proposal and expresses the desire to change the interview format to the same as last time: written questions. Such a situation would make any London visit of K and the journalists unnecessary. The Bishop says to K, “Do NOT come, because I will not speak”.”

    See the whole story in the article from the True Restoration Press:
    http://truerestoration.blogspot.co.uk/2010...real-story.html
    Tuesday, February 2, 2010
    Der Spiegel: The Real Story

    A totally distorted and anti-clerical article appears in the Spiegel shorly after the event.

    2 – 4 July 2011
    The second event is the strange behaviour displayed by the German SSPX lawyer K during the trial of Bishop Williamson in Regensburg (4 July 2011), where he was supposed to be a witness for the defence on 4 July 2011. He acted more like the prosecutor rather than a witness for the defence.

    The lawyer ridiculed the Bishop in describing him as “colourful bird”, who has “no significant position of leadership”, an “eccentric”, “one who had a persistent problem with recognition of reality" and "monotonous regularity every two years, believes in the apocalypse."

    See the German sources:
    http://www.derwesten.de/nachrichten/ex-bis...id4839263.html) :Dapd report.
    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/bayern/prozess-...mmern-1.1116124

    these articles are mentioned on 2 English speaking forums:

    http://eponymousflower.blogspot.co.uk/2011...williamson.html
    also:
    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/i...?showtopic=7525


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    « Reply #72 on: October 29, 2012, 03:20:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    The World Jews have made it clear Bishop Fellay has to accept Vatican II.

    And from Bishop Fellay's own hemming and hawing it seems apparent he's about to go along with it.

    So much for Archbishop Lefebvre's I Accuse the Council.

    So much for Catholic Tradition in the SSPX!



    Phenomenal posts rebutting the nameless one over on Ignis Tele.


    Hats off too you

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    « Reply #73 on: October 29, 2012, 03:26:47 PM »
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  • This was said by Columba "Menzingen's continuing association with its shamelessly kosher-trad spokesman clearly proves it has joined the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr".

    That never occurred to me in all this.  Is this why Fellay is going forward, throwing out his own brother and crushing anyone who stands in his way, come hell or high water, in his quest for Rome?

    It made me stop and think.  

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    « Reply #74 on: October 29, 2012, 03:52:17 PM »
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  • "That never occurred to me in all this?"

    Really?

    What do you think the "elder brothers" remark by +Fellay was about?

    It was a sign of submission.

    There are only two sides really.  You're either with the powers and the principalities of this world of darkness or you're with Our Lord.  

    We know which side the conciliarists, cdu people, the israelis, are with.