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Offline Nadir

Re: Knock Pilgrimage 2018
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 05:53:03 PM »
Quote from: forlorn on September 23, 2018, 06:32:23 AM
You are either blind or ill-willed. 

So according to La Salette there should've been a huge war between France, Italy, Spain and England starting in 1865, followed by new Catholic kings in all those countries starting a religious revival and great strides in faith before 25 years of abundant harvest, after which a precursor to the anti-christ would wage war with all these kingdoms and against God. These things did not happen.
I am neither blind nor ill-willed. 
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Our Lady says nothing about "a huge war between France, Italy, Spain and England". You are putting words in her mouth.  She said: France, Italy, Spain and England will be at war, blood will flow in the streets; Frenchmen will fight Frenchmen, Italian with Italian. 
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In the case of Italy, shortly after La Salette apparition and shortly before the declaration of the Republic (1851), there were uprisings under Giuseppe Mazzini, the founder of the Mafia, and Giuseppe Garibaldi (freemason) under the direction of the satanic Albert Pike. This meant the end of Catholic Italy. The Pope was a prisoner in the Vatican. The Capture of Rome occured in 20 September 1870 and ended in the Lateran Treaty 11 February 1929 under Mussolini.
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In short, decisions about alleged supernatural manifestations are a matter for the Church to decide and  are not be rejected on the grounds that every little detail is not a replica of the prophecy.
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Remember Jonah had his nose out of joint when God said He would destroy Nineveh and failed to do so, because the people repented. Poor Jonah had egg on his face and more...

 
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Offline St.Patrick

Re: Knock Pilgrimage 2018
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2018, 06:56:04 AM »
Quote from: stgobnait on September 23, 2018, 02:11:47 AM
Where was Mass offered in Knock?
It is wiser not to disclose that publically. You are welcome to send me a private message if you like.
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Offline St.Patrick

Re: Knock Pilgrimage 2018
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2018, 07:01:56 AM »
Quote from: forlorn on September 23, 2018, 06:32:23 AM
So according to La Salette there should've been a huge war between France, Italy, Spain and England starting in 1865, followed by new Catholic kings in all those countries starting a religious revival and great strides in faith before 25 years of abundant harvest, after which a precursor to the anti-christ would wage war with all these kingdoms and against God. These things did not happen.
See it wasn't so hard to give a simple answer,was it?

She does not say the war would start in 1865. Read it more closely. They are separate sentences.


The 25 years of peace, is clearly after the great chastisement (the 3 days), which you do not show in your quotation.

Her prophesy is very broad in its timeline. You are foolish to expect it all to be limited to the 19th century.

Oh and the 1864 thing is a spiritual thing. Which is invisble, at least directly.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Knock Pilgrimage 2018
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2018, 02:34:25 PM »
Quote from: Nadir on September 23, 2018, 05:53:03 PM
I am neither blind nor ill-willed.
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Our Lady says nothing about "a huge war between France, Italy, Spain and England". You are putting words in her mouth.  She said: France, Italy, Spain and England will be at war, blood will flow in the streets; Frenchmen will fight Frenchmen, Italian with Italian.
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In the case of Italy, shortly after La Salette apparition and shortly before the declaration of the Republic (1851), there were uprisings under Giuseppe Mazzini, the founder of the Mafia, and Giuseppe Garibaldi (freemason) under the direction of the satanic Albert Pike. This meant the end of Catholic Italy. The Pope was a prisoner in the Vatican. The Capture of Rome occured in 20 September 1870 and ended in the Lateran Treaty 11 February 1929 under Mussolini.
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In short, decisions about alleged supernatural manifestations are a matter for the Church to decide and  are not be rejected on the grounds that every little detail is not a replica of the prophecy.
.
Remember Jonah had his nose out of joint when God said He would destroy Nineveh and failed to do so, because the people repented. Poor Jonah had egg on his face and more...
You're ignoring the dates entirely, nit-picking half-sentences that you can twist into meaning whatever you want, and then ignoring the fact that England never got the Catholic monarch or religious revival promised.

The only war England was involved in in 1865 was a minor colonial conflict, there was no war of religion and no religious restoration thereafter. There was no cινιℓ ωαr in France in 1865, nor any war at all for that matter. There was no blood flowing in the streets of England, France or Spain. There was no religious restoration as promised. There was no 25 years of peace after said war and a no precursor to the anti-christ after those 25 years. 
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Offline forlorn

Re: Knock Pilgrimage 2018
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2018, 02:37:09 PM »
Quote from: St.Patrick on September 24, 2018, 07:01:56 AM
See it wasn't so hard to give a simple answer,was it?

She does not say the war would start in 1865. Read it more closely. They are separate sentences.


The 25 years of peace, is clearly after the great chastisement (the 3 days), which you do not show in your quotation.

Her prophesy is very broad in its timeline. You are foolish to expect it all to be limited to the 19th century.

Oh and the 1864 thing is a spiritual thing. Which is invisble, at least directly.
It does not say the 25 years of peace is after the Great Chastisement. That's your own conjecture, because again you have never actually read the prophecies. It clearly says that the peace among men follows the war involving France, Italy, Spain and England.
And yes it does say the war starts in 1865. It mentions what will happen in 1865 and then says straight after France, England, etc. WILL BE at war. Meaning the war is already on in 1865. There was no such war in 1865 and no Catholic restoration in England afterwards. 
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