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Offline Seraphina

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Re: Just not right........
« Reply #105 on: November 18, 2023, 09:12:39 PM »
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  • Why does the "resistance" need a leader when so many resistors are still going to sspx chapels?
    Because most have nowhere better to go, most likely. How many SSPX people live close enough to a resistance chapel to make it their regular church home?  How many resistance chapels have mass and Sacraments regularly enough for the same purpose?  If you have children, are they going to keep the Faith attending Mass a few times a year, or once a month, waiting sometimes years for Sacraments?  As for the SSPX, I think a lot depends upon the priest and who attends.  If the priest is one of the old guard, and/or the faithful (those with the $$$, especially), are from the older days, the new stuff isn’t likely to take hold as much or very quickly.  
    I think there are a fair number who go to SSPX chapels because the other choices are involuntary Home-Alone or the novus ordo.  

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #106 on: November 19, 2023, 07:43:06 AM »
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  • Because most have nowhere better to go, most likely. How many SSPX people live close enough to a resistance chapel to make it their regular church home?  How many resistance chapels have mass and Sacraments regularly enough for the same purpose?  If you have children, are they going to keep the Faith attending Mass a few times a year, or once a month, waiting sometimes years for Sacraments?  As for the SSPX, I think a lot depends upon the priest and who attends.  If the priest is one of the old guard, and/or the faithful (those with the $$$, especially), are from the older days, the new stuff isn’t likely to take hold as much or very quickly. 
    I think there are a fair number who go to SSPX chapels because the other choices are involuntary Home-Alone or the novus ordo. 
    You missed the point.


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #107 on: November 19, 2023, 07:59:43 AM »
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  • You missed the point.

    Um...how about you share that point with us? I don't get your point either.
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #108 on: November 19, 2023, 08:03:14 AM »
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  • If you have children, are they going to keep the Faith attending Mass a few times a year, or once a month, waiting sometimes years for Sacraments?

    It feels like you're throwing completely different scenarios into the same sentence and treating them like they're basically the same thing.

    -regular Mass once a month
    -Mass every 3 months
    -Mass once every few years

    Those things are COMPLETELY different and I would not react the same to all 3 of these.
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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #109 on: November 19, 2023, 08:29:37 AM »
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  • Um...how about you share that point with us? I don't get your point either.
    If "resistors" go to the SSPX, there isn't a need for great "resistance " leader. The need is for more priests and more Masses.


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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #110 on: November 19, 2023, 10:55:11 PM »
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  • If "resistors" go to the SSPX, there isn't a need for great "resistance " leader. The need is for more priests and more Masses.
    And in the meantime they see their children go off into the world and lose the faith, or they, themselves lose the faith?  You don’t seriously think a thriving resistance network of any or no organization is going to spring up in say, a year or two at most, do you?  A person needs to weigh the risks and benefits of what’s currently available and what is likely to be available in the near future.  Most of us don’t have the wherewithal to found, build, maintain, and populate a resistance chapel.  

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    Re: Just not right........
    « Reply #111 on: November 20, 2023, 12:59:02 PM »
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  • And in the meantime they see their children go off into the world and lose the faith, or they, themselves lose the faith?  You don’t seriously think a thriving resistance network of any or no organization is going to spring up in say, a year or two at most, do you?  A person needs to weigh the risks and benefits of what’s currently available and what is likely to be available in the near future.  Most of us don’t have the wherewithal to found, build, maintain, and populate a resistance chapel. 
    We were never meant to raise children without a Catholic Community.   And since the SSPX broke with Rome and then tried to go back, we just keep getting splits.  I know there are many positions on what Catholics should be doing right now and that is the frustration.  The Traditionalists should be working together, not against each other.  It isn't just about the SSPX and the "resistance".  It is also about +Archbishop Lefebvre vs Thuc, una cuм vs non una cuм, sede vs r&r.  Women should support their spouses decisions, but all this division is really affecting women and children.  And due to the submission stance, woman and children have no voice.  This is why I wrote the letter I did (its in a different thread).  We need to realize that what ideas we come up with will never hold water until a Catholic Pope decides on the issues.  In the mean time the clergy should provide sacraments for those in need.  Under the emergency situation we know we are in.  May God keep us Faithful and not discouraged.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"