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Author Topic: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V  (Read 28891 times)

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Re: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V
« Reply #145 on: August 07, 2023, 08:47:10 PM »
Hasn't some bishops already sent Francis a letter admonishing him? Also many trads are in denial about salvation by invincible ignorance being pelagian when you show them how utter ridiculous it is, yet they double down. Are these still material heretics?

You say the Pope isn't the head but also the Pope is the visible head... Sure Christ is the real head, but the Pope is still a head, as you said, visible.
The pope's mind seems to be compromised far too deeply for the admonition to be effective.  Remember, contrary to how much God has blessed us, the pope and many high Church officials were fed the most criminally aberrant philosophies for years in their formative years.  The effects of such mental programming is beyond what you or I have experienced or can empathize with.  There's also the fact that the few admonishing voices are drowned by the overwhelming majority of bishops, to whom this pope is a hero, or perhaps even not progressive enough!

Re: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V
« Reply #146 on: August 08, 2023, 12:10:52 PM »
First time back in quite a long time....

I see the old SV vs. R&R debate is still going strong on CathInfo. 


Re: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V
« Reply #147 on: August 08, 2023, 12:13:14 PM »
First time back in quite a long time....

I see the old SV vs. R&R debate is still going strong on CathInfo.
:facepalm: 

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Re: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V
« Reply #148 on: August 08, 2023, 04:40:38 PM »
What a lame statement. These two priests are so into their minds.

The Thuc line of the Planar wouldn't exist if it weren't by the very own Abp Lefebvre who told such group to go with Bp Thuc in the first place. Canon Revaz was an Ecône professor who made the contact.

Now Bp Thuc did performed other consecrations later on like in 1981 since he was aware of the invalidity of the new rite. Abp Lefebvre back then wasn't willing to consecrate. He was busy dealing with JP2.

Now, all of this sedevacantism doesn't have a solution is another misconception. There's always a solution. If not the Church wouldn't be a perfect society. Ask the council fathers of Constance when all the three successions were put into question.

About not judging canonically it's another misconception. Canonically speaking all the usurpers of Vatican 2 have already been condemned according to Canon 188.4 and the Bull cuм Ex Appostolatus Officio of Pope Paul IV. When you say Bergoglio is not a pope you're stating a fact based on reality.  When you see an animal with 4 legs, barks like a dog and wags it's tail like a dog are you going to wait for a veterinarian to tell you it's perhaps a Giraffe?

Just my two cents
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I am proud to be the 12th person to give this a thumb's-up. I have never seen anyone get so many upvotes for one post, that I can recall offhand.

This post wins so hard that I have nothing to add, except for my upvote, which I have already done. :cowboy:

Re: Joint Statement of SSPX-MC Priests: Fr. David Hewko & Fr. Hugo Ruiz V
« Reply #149 on: August 18, 2023, 11:14:52 AM »
The church is not a democracy.  It is not individualistic.  Catholics don’t decide things “on our own” or by way of “personal decisions.”


Your question shows a lack of understanding of how a hierarchical organization works.  The closest organization that exists similar to the church would be the military.  If some General came out and said he was anti-America, the simple soldier on the ground does not have the authority to a) stop his mission, b) change his daily duties or c) lead an ιnѕυrrєcтισn against the bad general.  It’s above his pay-grade.  His opinion doesn’t matter.  What matters are his superiors and their orders for him. 

So to answer your question:  whether I (personally) accept pope x as pope matters 0%.  Even if pope x claims heresy.  It doesn’t change my daily duties as a catholic nor do I have any authority to lead any kind of rebellion.  My duties are to God not a pope. I can educate others on the heresy and tell them to pray for the papacy (in general terms), but the persons responsible for fixing the issue are a) God and b) church officials.

Bye bye.