The Novus Ordo is a schismatic rite, and belongs to the sect that presently occupies Rome.

It is not a question of "How many does it take," but it's a matter of your private interpretation of that particular code of canon law.

Why should we take your interpretation as a fact that we must all adhere to, as if you are a pope yourself?

Even if the church officials would eventually act in some manner, there would still be the period of time between the moment the putative pope admits he is a heretic and the moment the church officials make a declaration.  Would you still accept him as pope at the moment he admits he is a heretic? 

Dear NIFH,

Catholics trust canonizations not because of the "process" but because of the papal declaration.

Has the process EVER changed? Since it appears that you disagree with the process of John Paul II, are you somehow the new judge of what the process needs to be? If you're not in charge of that, who is?

There are distinctions to be made here.  It is possible for a person to be a material heretic and to still be a member of the Mystical Body of Christ.  I think it was Tanquerey who said that most Catholics are materially semi-Pelagians, and are quite unaware of it.  These people have ideas that contradict Church doctrine, but do not intend to, and would change their ideas as soon as they learned the true doctrine.  There are innumerable ways to materially be a non-Catholic, and subjectively definitely still be a Catholic.

The pope is not the head of the Catholic Church.  Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the Catholic Church.  The pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth.  He holds the highest position of any mere human on Earth, but he is still only the vicar of the Head.

Whether or not our present pope is truly the head of the sect eclipsing the Church, he certainly seems to be at least the visible head.  Just as it is possible for a local bishop to be at the same time the president of the local Socialist Club, it is possible for the pope to be at the same time the president of the 'newchurch'.  All of his time and effort and dedication seems to be put to the service of his sect, rather than to his far nobler position of Christ's Vicar on Earth.  Our poor Holy Father, we must pray for him, and make clear that he will have our fullest support should he accept the grace to turn around.

What a lame statement. These two priests are so into their minds.

The Thuc line of the Planar wouldn't exist if it weren't by the very own Abp Lefebvre who told such group to go with Bp Thuc in the first place. Canon Revaz was an Ecône professor who made the contact.

Now Bp Thuc did performed other consecrations later on like in 1981 since he was aware of the invalidity of the new rite. Abp Lefebvre back then wasn't willing to consecrate. He was busy dealing with JP2.

Now, all of this sedevacantism doesn't have a solution is another misconception. There's always a solution. If not the Church wouldn't be a perfect society. Ask the council fathers of Constance when all the three successions were put into question.

About not judging canonically it's another misconception. Canonically speaking all the usurpers of Vatican 2 have already been condemned according to Canon 188.4 and the Bull cuм Ex Appostolatus Officio of Pope Paul IV. When you say Bergoglio is not a pope you're stating a fact based on reality.  When you see an animal with 4 legs, barks like a dog and wags it's tail like a dog are you going to wait for a veterinarian to tell you it's perhaps a Giraffe?

Just my two cents