Author Topic: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo (Read 33888 times)

Clemens Maria · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2020, 01:17:16 PM »

Shuckhardt was the first that I know of. But he wasn't the only. Both Patrick Henry Omlor and Hutton Gibson likewise were early traditionalists who possessed exceptionally brilliant minds and quickly came to the realization that true popes could not possibly promote heresy to the entire Church. A large number of people who never went along with the Novus Ordo at any point, ended up sede. And now even the Novus Ordo people are reacting to Francis not by asserting a right to reject his doctrine but by going directly to the argument that he cannot be a true pope. Salza is the poster-child for everything that can go wrong when you take the R&R position and then arrogantly assert that any other position is heretical and/or schismatic.

Carissima · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2020, 01:28:57 PM »

Quote from: Meg on October 18, 2020, 12:09:15 PM

I have to wonder if the sedevacantists and their fellow travellers believe that they are somehow VERY special, or favored by God, in order to somehow save the Catholic Faith. Kind of like the pentacostals or charismatics, who believe that they are in direct contact with God.

Is the Faith not being kept somewhere?
If not in a certain group, then wouldn't that mean that the Faith could only be kept within certain individuals who are unaware of the truth being anywhere other than within themselves.

2Vermont · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2020, 01:53:57 PM »

So this was John Salza's "answer":

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2020, 01:58:56 PM »

Quote from: Clemens Maria on October 18, 2020, 01:17:16 PM

Shuckhardt was the first that I know of. But he wasn't the only. Both Patrick Henry Omlor and Hutton Gibson likewise were early traditionalists who possessed exceptionally brilliant minds and quickly came to the realization that true popes could not possibly promote heresy to the entire Church. A large number of people who never went along with the Novus Ordo at any point, ended up sede. And now even the Novus Ordo people are reacting to Francis not by asserting a right to reject his doctrine but by going directly to the argument that he cannot be a true pope. Salza is the poster-child for everything that can go wrong when you take the R&R position and then arrogantly assert that any other position is heretical and/or schismatic.

This ^^^^^

Your Friend Colin · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2020, 02:13:26 PM »

Quote from: Meg on October 18, 2020, 12:09:15 PM

Might not this attitude bring about a certain amount of pride?

I have to wonder if the sedevacantists and their fellow travellers believe that they are somehow VERY special, or favored by God, in order to somehow save the Catholic Faith. Kind of like the pentacostals or charismatics, who believe that they are in direct contact with God.

Meg, how does the SSPX or Resistance act or think any differently?

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Author Topic: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo (Read 33888 times)

Clemens Maria

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Your Friend Colin

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